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Australians have resoundingly rejected a proposal to recognise Aboriginal people in its constitution and establish a body to advise parliament on Indigenous issues.

Saturday’s voice to parliament referendum failed, with the defeat clear shortly after polls closed.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oh it's not just us.

UK, and Canada have sordid pasts as well.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (3 children)

UK

Where do you think the US learned it from?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago

Where do you think Australian colonialism comes from?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I LEARNED IT FROM YOU, MOM AND DAD! 😭😭

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You can throw the French, Spanish, Dutch, and Portuguese in there too

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean... the UK. Given that the USA, Canada and Australia were all British colonies, ergo the same past.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but no because we are talking about today and not the 1700s.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"sordid pasts"

"bUT WE're tAlkiNg aBouT TodAy!"

🤦 goddamn you're an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, are we talking about the past or today? Make up your mind. 🤦 seriously, how do you remember to breathe in the morning?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah but this is the present.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Canada is actively shitty to their indigenous people.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm from the UK so I can vouch that the government are actively shitty to it's not rich people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If I want to explain the class system to someone from a former colony, I start with colonialism, but practised at home.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not disagreeing with you, but the point to understand here is that Australia cannot even make it over the very first hurdle. Indigenous peoples are recognised in Canada's constitution, the Canadian government has signed many treaties over hundreds of years and Canada even has a form of Indigenous self-governance in Nunavut. Australia cannot get anywhere even close to these things. Constitutional recognition was just rejected, widespread treaty making is only in its infancy and self-governance is an absolute pipe dream.

Other former colonies may be shitty towards their Indigenous peoples, but at the very least there is generally some form of recognition of their importance as Indigenous. In Australia, we do not even see Indigenous peoples as Indigenous. We don't understand what that word actually means. So much of the commentary from No voters during this referendum was about how Indigenous Australians are just another racial minority group, equating them with Chinese Australians, Indian Australians, etc. People fundamentally do not understand the difference, because they do not understand the history of their own country.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As is the US. Let's have a threesome!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And that is why I am soo embarrassed, and shocked, and dissappointed, and