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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bodycam video shows Illinois cop shooting ~~unarmed~~ 14-year-old ~~suspected of breaking a window~~

Tell the story for what it. A police officer shot a child. What they were or weren't suspected of, whether they had a weapon or not, doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, yes it does. Like it or not, in the US it's not unheard of for a 14 year old to have a gun. The fact that he was unarmed is very relevant.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's not illegal to be armed. It's also not a death sentence. It's only relevant if they're armed AND shooting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You'd think gun right activists would more concerned with this reality. But I can assume the skin color without reading the article and that is a more uncomfortable reality for them to acknowledge; the reason some of them need to be armed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Spot on. The sad fact is, the best gun reform we ever got was when the black panthers decided to arm themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I think it's relevant because it's evidence the teen was not a threat. I don't think it's implying an armed individual would automatically be a threat.

There are articles that do draw that false equivalence, and they deserve being called out. I don't think this is one of them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also, do you believe that a suspect needs to shoot first before being considered a threat by police? I would say "armed and brandishing" would make the individual a legitimate threat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

That's fair. I'd read an article titled with that.