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You know how people looked at the dumb decisions of #StocktonRush and said don't get in the #Titan ?

Don't get into an #ElonMusk #Tesla or #SpaceX

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm pretty happy just using Lemmy and discord, I deleted Twitter and reddit because of recent events, it's definitely helped keeping my screen time down and discord typically leads to more fulfilling conversations imo

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You might want to also replace Discord if you care about your data.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd love to, but there's no equivalent. My friend group and I need voice channels with ACL, streaming support, video chat support, and webhook/bot support.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Check out Revolt, it's basically a Discord clone without the bullshit. Matrix is getting close to being full replacement, but still lacks some features.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Being open source definitely is a plus for Revolt. Gonna give it a good try.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guilded or Revolt seem like good alternatives if you can convince your entire community to move over, might still have privacy issues but I'm not really sure.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Moving to a different closed source platform feels pointless at this point, but maybe Lemmy is spoiling me

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This right here. Honestly, if we're taking the time to hop platforms and start bolstering the next wave of popular sites and services, why make the same mistake again as the last time around?

No matter how much a company talks about how ethical they want to be or how much they value doing the right thing for their clients, once money enters the picture on a wider scale and people start looking in the direction of an eventual IPO, everything goes to shit.

Meanwhile, IRC is still working just fine. No degradation of services after decades. You can still throw your own ircd up on a $3/mo VPS and be golden.

Moving everything to open source, decentralized platforms can only be a boon for all of us in the long run. Anything less is just kicking the problem down the road a little.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, Discord can't be replaced right now. All my gaming friends are using it and I don't see any FOSS software that can replace it right now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Irc + mumble used to be my goto 15 years ago. It would still work, but understandably a bit less refined

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you care about keeping your data private then why are you on the fediverse? Everything here is public. Anyone can datamine if they want. And you can't even delete your data if you want (since there are backups on different instances). Even your DM's can be read by the admins of your or the recipients instance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's the purpose of public forum. There is a difference between Fediverse selling your data and someone scraping comments you made publicially. They also offer Send Secure Message if the user has added their Matrix handle. Which offers E2E by default for private messages.

I also believe the delete issue was resolved, but not sure if it was merged already.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it just seems too hard to care about my data anymore

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's best to just assume that anything posted to the internet is public.

There are some apps that have end to end encryption, but beyond that anything you type into these sites is basically public.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Damn this site is great! Shame I never heard of it before. One thing I love about the fediverse is the amount of actual useful info being shared in more general communities instead of just focused communities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, I’d leave Discord if I could back up my chat history. I have a chat with my boyfriend going on for two years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Discord doesn't offer the functionality natively, but you can try DiscordChatExporter.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just need a good worldnews and news sub on lemmy and I’ll be set. I enjoy following the Ukraine war through the worldnews sub.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try out [email protected] for your world news, seems pretty decent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Thanks! Memmy is an amazing app so far! Loving it. Feels exactly like Apollo it’s a shame Christian didn’t wanna head over to Lemmy.

I just love solid megathreads on Reddit worldnews to follow along with everything about the war. That I’ll miss the most.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Matrix protocol as a replacement for discord

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

There need to be serious improvements in the VoiP but someday I think it will be a true replacement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Any replacement for Discord is going to run into the AIM problem. Even years after nobody was on AOL, AIM remained the biggest instant messenger client simply because it had the most users. A big factor in it losing its dominance, though, was Trillian. Once you could have all your accounts in one place, it kind of made it starkly obvious which ones were redundant. At the same time, it made the barrier for entry feel lower.

Instead of needing different clients for ICQ, AIM, Yahoo, and MSN, you could have it all in one place, packaged with a totally garbage IRC client. So if you had friends on, say, ICQ, there was little reason not to register an account.

This is what we need with Discord. A client that people can migrate to because it's objectively better, which allows them to connect both to Discord and to an open source Discord killer (a Disczilla, if you like). That way nobody has to convince whole ass communities at a time. You can slowly osmosize over as the client gets popular without having to have that critical mass from day 1 to draw people.