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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In what way were they, the current Dutch king and queen, involved?

Their inheritance is comprised of stolen riches. Their whole socioeconomic status is a result of the crimes of their ancestors. They didnt commit the crime but they have kept the loot and are still profiting from it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Their whole socioeconomic status is a result of the crimes of their ancestors.

So, ancestral guilt.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Its not just "ancestral guilt". Like I said : "they have kept the loot and are still profiting from it", And by loot I dont mean only valuable goods but power too. They still benefit from the power imbalance between countries that was created during colonialism. Just look at the world economy and the dynamic between the "economic south" and "economic north"

They are not guilty of colonialism "per se" but they are guilty of perpetuating, and using, the inequality and oppression that colonialism was built on for their own benefit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So, do you mind telling me whose socioeconomic status isn't a result of the crimes of their ancestors?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Slaves, descendents of slaves, and the poor. You know, most people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Poor people or slaves could have rich ancestors who enslaved others as well though, single lost war in the medieval Africa could meant rich slaver becoming the slave .

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Many descendants of slaves and many poor people benefit from the atrocities of their ancestors, simply to a lesser degree. Short of being part of a completely dispossessed people isolated from broader society, we are all where we are due to the atrocities of our ancestors.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Not even sure about that. Even if you were part of some totally isolated group for tens of thousands of years you might have rape in your ancestry. Inherited guilt doesn't work.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I was born poor but doing pretty well now. So my status started out fine and the moment I started doing well it was solely because of my ancestors? Were my ancestors in the 19th century or so slacking off in the 1990s but got their act together when I graduated college? I am really confused how this process works. How does the spiritual "status" of my ancestors interact with normal matter, why does it seem like sometimes I go to work and do my job is part of why I have money when it is really my ancestors spirits?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Even the descendants of slaves are living in a country slavery helped build.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Right ancestral guilt. Sins of the grandparents visited onto the children. People punished for crimes they didn't commit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

In this case lets talk about African based pirates and other groups enslaving millions of Europeans even before that and after that. Africans were slavers long before Duch arrived and they built riches on selling their own people to white man.

Why are the African people not being blamed for their ancesstral guilt?