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Looking at the two big news publishers in my country. One isn't reporting about the current bombings at all, while the other one is phrasing their words mostly anti-Palestinian.

Is there some neutral coverage I can keep up to? Where do you guys get your info from?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ugh. That link is horrible. I mean the descriptions behind it.

It looks like non-Hamas Palestinians have two enemies working against them.

Makes me wonder what exactly a Pro-Palestinian position is.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A pro-Palestinian position is (for now) anti-Hamas and pro-Abbas, supports the removal from Hamas from power, supports Israeli action against Hamas, but decries the limitations of aid or the blockades from Egypt/Jordan/etc against even short-term refugees.

Palestine would currently be a country, for the first time in human history, if Hamas did not exist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Palestine would currently be a country, for the first time in human history, if Hamas did not exist.

Can you expand on this?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A 2 state solution was offered multiple times and was denied because Palestinian leadership had a hard line of Israel not existing.

When a 2 state solution became politically viable in Palestinian territory, Hamas seized power and refused further elections

Just because I don't know if you want clarity on the whole thing, Palestine as never been a country. It was part of Jordan and Egypt before being lost in the 6 Day War, and part of a chain of empires before that. There was no unified Palestinian identity prior to 1967.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To my knowledge the closest state to the 2 state solution was an offer to Arafat after the Camp David negotiations. He didn't take the offer, but I don't know why. But that was in 2000, before Hamas seized power in 2005. That was why I asked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Abbas moving toward the 2 state solution was what led to the Hamas takeover, and violent skirmishes between the PA and Hamas. Specifically their issues were the more secular state the PA favors and that they don't believe Israel should exist

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So the ideal solution would be a 2-state+1-cage solution, where the cage is for Hamas and Netanyahu together with his Ultra Orthodox faction, where they can fight each other to death, while Israel and Palestine negotiate on a peace treaty.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I very strongly support this idea.

Use the PPV money to pay for investment in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Tally me in. Strongly agree.