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This proves that AC Oddysey runs faster on Linux than on Windows with your specific hardware. What this doesn't mean is that "Linux gaming is faster and smoother than Windows gaming".
Counter examples are Overwatch, CS:2, GTA V and many more.
Nobody reasonable doubts that Linux can perform as good or better than Windows, but claiming that this is true for all games is simply misinformation.
Wrong general claims like these lead to posts asking why their specific games run worse on Linux since they switched because they want more fps.
Don't get me started on older GPU's like 1000 series Nvidia that have problems with any vkd3d games so the performance is abysmal.
Why is it not enough that almost all games work on Linux with ±15% performance difference?
I agree with what you're saying, but I dont understand the games you used as counter examples. All of them run very well on Linux.
The reason I chose those games was because I played those popular games for dozens of hours or more on Linux and can confidently say they work great. Additonally they are running on different engines and were released over the course of many years.
Its still fucking embarrassing for windows
Not really. Games almost always have some bottleneck and maybe on proton a specific system call is faster. A translation layer doesn't have much of an performance impact if the individual translations are as fast as native.
The great performance speaks more to the quality of wine, dxvk, vkd3d and other tools developed by very skilled individuals.
I never said ALL games run better on Linux. But on AMD most games do. I cannot fit ALL games in a video. You're talking in generalities that cannot be proven. I did say more videos will come. Apart from Ray Tracing, gaming on Linux on AMD is both faster and smoother. Can you prove me wrong? Do it. :)
Yes, it's great that you actually test Windows and Linux on the same system.
I'm just going off the title since it implies that Linux generally runs Windows games better, which isn't the norm.
According to the german tech magazin ComputerBase, Linux generally performs much worse on the 1% low fps. Those largely determine how smooth the game actually feels.
german:
https://www.computerbase.de/2023-06/diablo-iv-linux-benchmarks/
https://www.computerbase.de/2023-07/star-wars-jedi-survivor-linux-test/
https://www.computerbase.de/2023-08/ratchet-clank-rift-apart-linux-test/
https://www.computerbase.de/2023-09/starfield-linux-benchmarks/
english (Google Translate):
https://www-computerbase-de.translate.goog/2023-06/diablo-iv-linux-benchmarks/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
https://www-computerbase-de.translate.goog/2023-07/star-wars-jedi-survivor-linux-test/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
https://www-computerbase-de.translate.goog/2023-08/ratchet-clank-rift-apart-linux-test/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
https://www-computerbase-de.translate.goog/2023-09/starfield-linux-benchmarks/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
This is very interesting. Keep in mind these are all DX12 games and VKD3D is still under heavy dev. Still nice to have it as information. Thank you very much! :)
Yes and iirc the benchmarks are from relatively short after the release so there might be room for improvement.
Imo new titles are important to look at when it comes to how people perceive gaming on linux for the first time.
It's always suprising how well and consistent dxvk performs. I'm sure it's a lot of work with many games requiring special attention.
Edit: typo
To be fair, AMD performs better on Linux than Windows in general because AMD makes shit drivers.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, as a graphics programmer AMD's proprietary drivers are unquestionably the buggiest which I have to work with on a regular basis. Seemingly innocent stuff which works perfectly fine on every other vendor (and on the same GPU using the open-source drivers) will cause the proprietary drivers to break horribly or run slower by multiple orders of magnitude.
Thank you, exactly my point.
https://www.phoronix.com/review/radeon2022-windows-linux
This is a year ago on Ubuntu lol. XD
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