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Some news that would be completely mundane today but scary or shocking in the past.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks for saying this. I bet most americans dont know that a convicted rapist was their president. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not an expert on the nuance of the US legal system, but "convicted" probably applies to the criminal system, right? What would it be in this scenario? A confirmed rapist? Just "a rapist"?

Still, the guy raped some lady and he's actively running for president. That one would be shocking any time before the mid 2010s, honestly.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, “civilly liable rapist” doesn’t have quite the same ring to it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Civil was the case that they gave me

What’s my motha-fuckin name? “Civil Suit Loserrrrr”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Well, that's not so bad then... /s

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They know . A huge chunk just doesn’t care.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have family in the US (who are not trumpets afaik) and they wouldn’t know that he actually got proven guilty for doing it. They‘d probably assume he made a deal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn’t it a civil trial tho and not a criminal trial? Meaning that the bar for evidence is just “more than likely” and not “beyond a reasonable doubt” right? I mean it’s still very damning but he has not (yet) been found guilty of the crime, just liable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is an important distinction of being "convicted" and "proven guilty" though. You can get off a conviction through multiple means, one being a mistrial and so on. I think there is no two ways about this after reading:

A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Was there a criminal trial, that ended in one of these other ways?