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It should say "Whiteskins" instead
*Paleskins
We're not all pink, Shran!
Crackers?
Me up in the stands (holding a bundle of fake money): CRA-CKERS! .... CRA-CKERS! .... (doing a tomahawk chop with the money) ... CRA-CKERS! .... CRA-CKERS!
Blue eyed devils, honkies, mayonnaise monkies, paleface (probably the most fitting as it's a slur of native American origin and fits the redskins theme), peckerwood, whitey, or white trash
This one needs to take off.
Yeah, you’ll need to try harder than that. Most of us aren’t blue-eyed and a lot of us are too different from the white trash stereotype. Most importantly, none of these are offensive enough.
If I heard someone chanting “CRACKERS, CRACKERS, CRACKERS”, I’d probably join in and wonder what dip or cheese we’re having with that.
This is a great discussion here, so keep reading. My favorites in this thread are the native wearing the “paleface” t-shirt with “Cletus”, and the “Fighting Whiteys”. Well done!
I'm white myself and was just listing slurs I've personally heard. Peckerwood, whitey and white trash are all considered pretty offensive where I'm from. The words may look a bit silly when they're typed out but you're missing the contempt and hatred that comes along with it when someone looks you dead in the eyes and calls you a slur.
The point is that they reduce you to a single feature, and display a clear disregard for your personhood. Perhaps being entirely unaffected by slurs is a bit of white privilege I've never felt and they genuinely don't bother most people but idk
White trash is classist as much as it’s racial. It would fall flat for someone who’s costly not.
And yeah, maybe it is white privilege but I’ve never been offended by such a thing
Eh, I don't think crackers quite works, just because the origin and use of the word compared to "Red Skins" has a slightly different context. I think "Red Necks" would have been a solid play on words, but obviously doesn't quite have the same racial connotations and history. Aside from whitey or cracker, I can't think of many other similar pejorative racial descriptors that'd really work though.
Crackers has to be the nicest derogatory word. Crackers are delicious.
Well, it's short for whip crackers so maybe not that nice.
Oh I thought it was about saltines. White crackers that are bland and of little use on their own; bland and only useful to support things with more flavour.
What’s the matter, paleskin?
"Paleface" .... and show a picture of a buck toothed yokel
If you're using a bucktoothed yokel as your mascot, you're missing out on a solid "Red Necks" joke
Wouldn't work. Doesn't feel the same. Half of the country or more personally identifies as red neck, and proudly. If someone called me that, my first impulse would be a joking fist pump because one half of my family is that, yes.
Those that don't self-identify either jokingly or in seriousness wouldn't see the shirt as applying to themselves, so no part of it would land at all. They'd just giggle and agree like most people in this thread are doing.
Notwithstanding that the actual term redneck came about from the red handkerchiefs worn by workers during the Battle of Blair Mountain, an ongoing strike between unionized coal miners and local company towns that ended in anywhere from an estimated 20 - 100 dead. So again, fuck yeah my ass is a redneck.
Paleface.
Paleface does not have and has never had a good connotation. That one is different and nothing about the implicit reminder is fun. It's one of two whole terms in existence that would make me knee-jerk upset. I'm hoping against every experience I've had with a fairly disappointing race that nobody proudly refers to themselves in the open as Paleface.
Go with that one.
What's the other term?
I was sitting there after posting that, thinking to myself that this was definitely something someone would immediately ask me in person, so to see it pop up instantly in my notifications like that was both very funny and a depressing statement on human nature. "You mentioned there are two surefire ways to make you really sad for the rest of the day, but you only gave us one?"
I considered not answering, because that would be amazingly stupid ammo to just give away for free, but the thing about me is I wouldn't be alive right now if I weren't also amazingly stupid.
Anyway, one half of my family are wannabe rednecks. The other side is turkish and the only people in America who can find that on a map are the only ones who know exactly what they're talking about. For reasons that are pretty understandable, there is enmity between turks and greeks, armenians, etc., so on the few occasions I've intentionally or accidentally outed the connection about myself in such company, I've more than once been called roach to my face with zero other provocation.
In their defense, ✩°。⋆we do a little genocide as a treat⋆。°✩, and seeing people double and triple down instead of simply just admitting that was maybe a mistake seems despairingly common. (If this is you, anonymous reader, you're not having the effect on your national image that you think you are, and I wish I could go one day without being humiliated by proxy).
In my defense, the first person to ever say this to me was in their late 60s, I was a teenager, and I have never even been out of the country before. My numbers may be off because I got that public school education, but I do not think I was alive back then to have had any hand in this. In that sense, another (otherwise dismissive) commenter was very on the nose when they compared the dynamic at play to Original Sin: I never did this. I do not and would never agree to this. I can do very close to nothing or actually nothing at all to ever begin to fix it. But I still have to spend my life repenting for it.
TLDR: roach. The word is roach.
I think. NGL I just skimmed that.
I prefer the Cleveland Colonizers
they probably changed the wording to avoid being too on-the-nose...
I think they just swapped insults.
The Washington Wypipo (I would wear this version)
alternate
The Colorado Crackers
The Indianapolis Institutional Racism (WNBA team)
The Columbus Yakubians
The Louisville Legrees
Why drag Indy into this? Fever is the most sanitized team name ever.
Only real heads will get this.