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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This "human shield" propaganda is so biased. By Israel's extremely broad definition, every Palestinian is a human shield.

If you were to apply this sick "human shield" logic to both sides, most of the innocent civilians killed by Hamas on Oct 7th would be acceptable military targets.

The IDF has military infrastructure near schools, malls, and hospitals. Why are they hiding behind human shields?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

If you were to apply this sick "human shield" logic to both sides, most of the innocent civilians killed by Hamas on Oct 7th

There were no military hiding among the party goers, or among the people living in their homes. The military personnel killed, was stationed at separate military installations that Hamas also targeted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about all Palestinians. I'm talking about the ones who are talked into staying where they are by hamas despite a warning ahead of time from Israel (and b4 you come in with "24 hours isn't enough time," I agree with you, but it's something. It's an attempt. The ravers were given zero warning, on purpose.)

Those Palestinians are, literally, being used as human shields, and trying to brush that off as deceptive propaganda is ignoring the evilness of hamas.

Being near something is different from hiding behind them. Hamas is IN civilian schools, sitting with the students, and IN the malls, standing among the shoppers, and IN the hospitals, betting on the fact that when Palestinians die, more people will back their agenda. They want them to die because it garners sympathy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm just asking you to apply the same logic to both sides.

Members of the IDF also go inside schools, malls, and hospitals. In fact, since there is mandatory military service in Israel, it's easy to say that the IDF are everywhere. In my opinion, this does not justify Hamas rockets targeting Israel, but the same logic is used to justify the massive Israeli bombardment on civilian infrastructure.

Suggesting that Hamas wants it's own civilians to die is just sick IDF propaganda to justify war crimes. I think civilians stayed in north Gaza because they did not want to abandon their homes, not because "hamas talked them into staying" lol

The IDF has launched, by it's own admission, over 8000 rockets into Gaza. Are we to believe all 8000 were launched at legitimate Hamas targets? To justify such an act we need serious evidence, "The IDF said it was all Hamas" is not good enough.

All of this is hauntingly similar to the US "war on terror". At a certain point, we labeled all military-aged males as "enemy combatants", therefore it was acceptable to kill them all. Israel is following the US lead: kill them all, then label them as Hamas to justify the mass slaughter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You are objectively incorrect.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You also support Russia over Ukraine?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not sure where you would get such a silly idea.

I support the side that is being unjustly attacked and besieged by a much stronger military power. I stand with Ukraine and Palestine.