this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2023
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To help contribute, here's the only meme I've ever done, which I did in response to news that Abrams was working on a new ST movie. And after seeing how well the franchise is going with SNW and LD, I feel it's even more appropriate.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

He’s a great visual director, but he needs a good writer to keep him in check.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Jorge is a fantastically creative guy. He needs limitations on that creativity, but he is undeniably a foundation of ideas.

JJ Abrams mostly regurgitates without having any truly unique ideas. Anything unique he does have is either a subversion or an unfinished mystery concept that’s film student tier. Especially in Star Wars and Trek, he took a bunch of the most surface level aspects from the franchises and threw them in without really doing anything with them.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

His black box storytelling is garbage and the coincidence-based plot in that SW movie was unforgivable.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's even funnier is when he tells how he came up with his "mystery box" method. He tries to play it off as some kind of profound insightful story from his childhood about magic shops. But then he explains it as the magic shops would package the junk that didn't sell into an unmarked "mystery box" to create intrigue which duped people into buying it. He outright admits he's selling junk

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah. In that Jon Stewart interview he straight up says that he never liked Star Trek and that "Star Trek was always too philosophical for me."

He sucks so bad.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Not in that SW movie. In two of those SW movies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wait, is that what J. J. stands for?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I'll add that this didn't start with the SW prequel movies either. The various essays on the topic typically focus on The Phantom Menace to make this case (see: Red Letter Media); we do love to hate on that movie. But if you look to early drafts of the very first Star Wars movie script, it's clear that it took a village to make it more than B-movie material. Also, the making-of stories are complete with every kind of move-making person improving and adding to our producer's vision, right down to salvaging the whole mess in the editing room. It's been a problem the entire time.

Now I wonder if THX-1138 and American Graffiti have similar war-stories behind them.