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First RCS now this, today has been wild

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[–] [email protected] 249 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

ABOUT FUCKING TIME. Take edge and shove it so far up your data tracking sphincter of a face hole.

Can we please get these laws on a global level.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Well they'll probably reinstall it with every update anyway.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That is easy enough to block or deal with.

At least there’s the option to remove it at all that the non tech people can now easily access.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can't wait to see what this breaks and how the fix is to reinstall edge for all kinds of mundane issues.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Turns out edge is what renders the entire UI and uninstalling it leaves you at the console. Oh and you can't access files because the file system is an http server accessed via edge. But it does come with QBASIC, so there's that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

They would get massive fines if they tried that.

[–] Honytawk 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

... then disable the update ...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Not really possible anymore, Microsoft has been forcing updates since Windows 10.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I’m not disagreeing, but what entity would enforce those global laws?

[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I vote for angry mob with convenient access to an active volcano.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Who needs a volcano when woodchippers can park right in your driveway.

Remember to load them feet first kids!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

*jots down 'load kids feet first into chipper'

Wait, is Microsoft violating child labor laws, too!?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, your heart's in the right place.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

And apparently the kids feet are in the right place too!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Same way laws are enforced now? Each country passing it and the companies needing to comply to continue operations.

Why are they force to comply right now if the laws don’t work?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You’re missing the point.

The ICC only has power in countries that let them have power. If a given country doesn’t feel like doing that, the ICC has precisely zero recourse or ability to enforce.

What should citizens in countries like that (which may or may not be dictatorships, single-party states, theocracies, or some other restrictive, un-democratic, and/or xenophobic form of government) do?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yes and I’m saying each country should implement it themselves so that we can reach global saturation. That is what I meant in my original response to op.

You are taking what I said out of proportion. Obviously we need Superman to enforce a global ruling hand over mankind.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I was about to say that I'd prefer alien overlords but based on Superman's origin, he's got my vote

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

La Haye International Court of Justice, of course.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And what happens when the country in question is one that doesn’t care that much about the ICC, and responds “make me”?

To wit: The United States has famously refused to subordinate itself to the ICC

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

If I have to keep a chromium browser around, in addition to Firefox, I'd rather edge than mainline Chrome.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's a false dichotomy. There's no shortage of Chromium browsers that are significantly better than both.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Suggestions? Preferably for both Windows and Mac

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Arc is weird but pretty good once you get used to it.

DuckDuckGo is good if you want a minimal browser and don’t really care about extensions

Brave is OK if you want a slightly more private version of Chrome

Honestly though, just use Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not sure which ones are compatible with Mac. Brave is my choice but there's also Vivaldi and several flavors of Opera.

[–] Honytawk 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All Mac browsers are just Safari anyway

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

You might be thinking of iOS browsers? Mac browsers use a variety of engines

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Brave seems like a superb option.

Opera seems like a reasonable option, I guess, but I'm not sure if it has the market share to actually be seen and controversial if there was something to be controversial about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I'm not sure I would. Edge is trash, it keeps shoving the AI bullshit, all the MSN news stuff, ads for cheaper shopping, all in your face when you first start up. While you can turn it off, it gets annoying doing that every time you reinstall or spin up a new VM. Chrome, for all its faults, is a lot less annoying freshly installed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I appreciate your sense of relief, but don't share it. This isn't the first time Microsoft has been ordered to stop pushing its stuff (remember Internet Explorer?) and I'm sure it won't be the last.