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YouTube warns it might make your viewing experience worse if you don't turn off your ad-blocker
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this post was submitted on 22 Nov 2023
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Oh no. God forbid you pay. Gimme free video now. It's mine!
Don't be daft. Youtube gets to steal user data which is more valuable.
Things were better without blood sucking greed of the world.
Have a modicum of restraint and stop using the service then. π€·ββοΈ
Y'all have massive entitlement complexes.
I am certain i am no more entitled than the already-billionaires salivating at the ad infested internet.
You are incorrect.
Source: your ass.
Source: Your own words aKtually
Youtube has every right not to serve me the video.
It does not have the right to interfere with what I do with it after the data reaches my machine, though.
YouTube reserved the right to make your experience shitty. Deal with it if baby is too cheap to use the service when ads.
You all have a massive entitlement complex. YT owes you nothing.
Sure, up until it so shitty that people don't use it anymore, then what ?
I don't see the point of paying for a service for having the privilege to be the product of the service.
Nope, it is a fight back complex. YT try to fuck me up, I try to fuck them up.
So a fantasy story shit how yt loses all of its customer. Especially the paying ones who don't deal with ads ππ. Google doesn't give a shit if the fee loaders leave.
Fight back π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
You are bitching about slow down on a forum with a 1000 active users. You aren't even a blip. Normal people will just pay because the service is valuable.
You are massively entitled. If you think it's so shitty stop using it. You can't. And yet you'll bitch about $12 a month.
Fine, you think is a shit show story. I suppose only time will tell.
Nope, paying customers still see ads put by creator, as per YT explanation. They don't interrupt the video but if a creator add them to the video, the paying customer still see them.
It is only a question about how much time will pass before even the paying customer start to think that he is seeing too many ads while even paying the service and have his data harvested.
This assuming that YT would will never put ads also on the premium service, which I would not be that sure in these times....
Oh well, the fact that YT it trying to fight back AdBlocker seems to refute that. If the people using adblockers are really that few, why even bother ?
If you say so...
And why I can't stop using YT ? Let's say that an AdBlocker is way more convenient to have then the possibility to use YT.
It is not the 12$ a month. I pay some service more because they are worth more money and I am the customer, not the product.
I simply am not that happy to pay to be the product.
Considering data harvesting, they can either pay me for my private data, or I'll watch YouTube for free without ads.
And they'll degrade the experience. See how that works?
You free load, you get a worse experience.
4 ads in a 15-20 minute video is as degraded as things get, I'd rather stare at the wall for 5 mins.
Contrary to popular modern corporate culture, I'm not a commodity who's sole purpose is to provide continued growth quarter over quarter to appease shareholders. Meanwhile the price of YouTube premium has actually increased on top of increased cost of living expenses.
So fuck Google, they can actually pay me for my personal browsing information, or I'll continue to use adblockers. Hell, yt-dlp isn't out of the question at this point in time.
So pay. I don't see the ads. You see how that works, right?
I do pay. They use my private browsing data for free, in return I watch YouTube with no ads because I use an adblocker. I have nothing in place preventing Google from tracking my internet usage, they can even track where I travel - So they're free to use my data while I can watch YouTube for free without four ads in a 15 minute video.
As stated, I am not some commodity that exists solely as a means for large publically traded corporations bigger than most Governments to make a killing in relation to profits because of the modern mindset that growth must be sustained quarter over quarter in order to appease shareholders.
In Sept 2023 Alphabet turned a $76.69bn profit, up 11% from the same time last year. You see how that works, right. <--Notice no question mark, that's a statement.
What are you rambling about? If you pay, they don't push ads.
If I use an adblocker under FF they don't push ads either, while Google still make record profits quarter over quarter using my personal data.
If we use Spotify as an example of modern corporate culture, it's deemed acceptable that they effectively rob artists if rightful income using a pricing structure that equates to a couple of cents in the dollar for the artist - While Spotify themselves pocket a vast proportion of profits. But if I use an adblocker on the free version of Spotify, I'm going against their terms and conditions and robbing Spotify of 'rightful income'.
In certain countries, Spotify have actually pulled their service as a result of being told they have to overhaul their pricing structure to renumerate artists fairly if they want to provide their service in the country in question.
The hipocracy regarding modern corporate culture and service pricing is extreme. If such a perspective is good enough for the service provider, it's good enough for me.
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this but unironically
I would pay (as I pay for other services) if only I wasn't the product.
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Do you consider your online data to be worthless? Because google doesn't. You pay the moment you click on a video, and even more by making an account and generating watch history.
Why does that data collection not go away if i decide to pay with cash?
Why did they remove the cheaper ad-free only subscription tier?
Why do they still serve various ads when you are a premium subscriber?
The answer to all of this is that they are a greedy corporation, they must do those things. You may call it soothsaying or whatever to those of us wondering "what comes next" after this battle. But it is shown many times by all large corporations that they will keep fighting to make line go up for eternity. Regardless of if that is in your best interest. It is silly to see users defend them despite that.
Or maybe the data is more valuable than $12/mo and it's subsidized by the data.
So you admit that corporations can do whatever they want to make money, but fuck customers who hate being treated like shit. You're a hypocrite.
Not at all. Google has been fantastic to me for 8 or 9 years now. I've had issues but they've mostly resolved my issues every time. There is a reason they are so popular.
I would gladly pay for it. BUT
Classic. I'm not going to buy it because they might change the model later.
This entire thread is entitlement. Stop using it if it's so bad.
It is not 'might'. We know they will do something like that.
Before AI went viral, how much did Giogle search improve, Youtube at all? Not at all really, but they cranked up the adverts. So now i am paying for Kagi search, I also sponsor open source projects so dont tell me that I am entitled. Youtube is the last Google product that cannot be replaced as of right now.
At the end of the day all i want is to be a customer, not a product.
I see we have a soothsayer in the comment section!
reading through your comment history you keep repeating bullshit about ads
Whatever you say. I'm not sure what you mean bullshit though.
This is what I mean
What about that is bullshit?
oh no, poor google!!!!
So just attacks? Got chu.
Why the fuck would I pay for YouTube when I could just steal it?
Because you're poor and rather fuck around with your time vs having a service that works great for a small fee?
stop polishing google's sword. I hope they are paying you for this.
I'm sorry you don't like reality π€·ββοΈ
The reality is that it's a bit naive to think that paying for a service is going to stop the company from introducing ads into the paid service too. History shows they WILL do that. This will be a silly comment when subscriptions become cable 2.0
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