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The anti-Islam, euroskeptic radical Geert Wilders is projected to be the shock winner of the Dutch election.

In a dramatic result that will stun European politics, his Freedom Party (PVV) is set to win around 35 of the 150 seats in parliament — more than double the number it secured in the 2021 election, according to exit polls.

Frans Timmermans’ Labour-Green alliance is forecast to take second place, winning 25 seats — a big jump from its current 17. Dilan Yeşilgöz, outgoing premier Mark Rutte’s successor as head of the center-right VVD, suffered heavy losses and is on course to take 24 seats, 10 fewer than before, according to the updated exit poll by Ipsos for national broadcaster NOS.

A win for Wilders will put the Netherlands on track — potentially — for a dramatic shift in direction, after Rutte’s four consecutive centrist governments. The question now, though, is whether any other parties are willing to join Wilders to form a coalition. Despite emerging as the largest party, he will lack an overall majority in parliament.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I guess netherlands was like, "you know, things have been going too well here"

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Things have been going shit here actually, and blaming minorities for a country's problems is still a surefire way to win votes. As a dutch person I'm sad, embarrassed, and scared.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Going to shit", really?

NL is one of the best countries in the world. Yes we have some challenges, e.g. stikstof or crappy goverment (e.g.toeslagenaffaire), but common, don't be soo fatalistic.

And yes, live is getting very expensive. Which is the result of the late-game capitalistic piramid scheme we live in. That sucks, sure. But that is not solvable any time soon. Especially not by NL :D

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • the government doesn't take climate change seriously
  • it is basically impossible for a large group of people (including me) to ever buy a home
  • any sort of nature here is dead and over half the country doesn't seem to care
  • inequality has been growing for decades
  • the country is incredibly polarized
  • after over a decade of neo liberal VVD policy, the majority of people apparently yearn for even more right wing policy
  • Ajax are 12th in the eredivisie

Or course I'm being a bit dramatic but considering how things were I do think the Netherlands is going to shit a little bit. Of course it's a better place to live than many other places, but in my opinion it's definitely getting worse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Are there any capitalist countries not like this at the moment? The problems seem the same everywhere, and the response always seems to be a rise in fascism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

NL is one of the best countries in the world.

That can change. Norway is also one of the best countries in the world, but they've been doing the same thing I see happening in the UK: not funding health care adequately, police corruption scandals, refusing to decriminalise and legalise drugs, not really using the oil fund money enough (unlike Alaska (US) which pays dividends to its citizens from its oil fund, not exactly a left-wing US state compared to Norway), welfare benefits being reduced, the Norwegian state used to fund housing coop development which led to 20% of our population living in democratic housing but isn't doing that anymore and now we're in a housing crisis, inequality has grown over the last 50 years, union density has reduced over the last 50 years, ...

When we're talking about things going to shit we mean relative to where we were before. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot I wish we had in the UK that Norway has, but the trajectory looks oddly similar to what happened and is happening in the UK. We're currently boiling frogs and because things are going to shit so slowly it's harder to notice. Like, so much counter evidence to what we're doing exists around the world if we simply look at how other areas are solving problems. For example, Finland is the only country in the EU where homelessness isn't increasing and housing prices have actually decreased* - wanna guess how they did that? (hint: the state gave people free housing)

* at least until recently, housing markets are weird now because of the inflation, but theirs were falling before that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is happening because things haven't been going well. Same can be seen all over Europe. Shit times and whether for a good reason or not, immigration issues have become a big issue in the minds of the people. Established moderate parties have avoided addressing that issue and that's why far-right parties, who keep banging on about being strict on immigration and immigrants, keep winning a bigger share.

Moderates are handing far-right votes by ignoring what people are concerned about. I know it's a dilemma to parties who don't consider it an issue (do you really want to go in on an issue you don't believe is an issue), but people think it's an issue and feel like they aren't being heard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

the Netherlands has been on a steady decline, and housing especially has been a massive issue

the netherlands is a good country because we are still benefitting off of our past, but we are not improving