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A sign saying: "MEN TEND TO CHOOSE HIGH PAYING PROFESSIONS - LIKE DOCTOR, ENGINEER, CEO, ETC., WHILE WOMEN NATURALLY GO TOWARD LOWER PAYING CAREERS - LIKE FEMALE DOCTOR, FEMALE ENGINEER, AND FEMALE CEO."

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 11 months ago (3 children)

A thing to take into account is male dominant professions sometimes being wildly toxic towards women which will push them away from that career path.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

It's also worth noting that careers like teaching were once highly respected and well-paying fields dominated by men. However, once women became more dominant in the field, the career as a whole lost both respect and pay essentially overnight. Nothing about the job itself changed, only the dominant gender.

It's honestly disgusting that people still try to defend this misogyny as some kind of physiological thing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I see your point though I’ve heard female nurses are awful towards male nurses.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And to a lesser degree men tend to avoid highly women centric workplaces, either due to toxic masculinity (nurses, anything to do with sewing and so on) or just not having other people whom they can relate to easier.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I've experienced toxic workplace environments towards men in fields dominated by women. It happens both ways.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At least men and women are equal in their ability to be assholes.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

toxic femininity

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

everyone with half a brain will agree that a lot of gender norms assigned to both men and women can be incredibly toxic. toxic masculinity just tends to be louder

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

anything to do with sewing and so on

I'm not arguing with your point at all, which is a good one, but this one hits me kind of funny. In Coast Guard aviation, the Rescue Swimmers (the guys who jump out of helicopters to save people, are in incredible shape, etc) have two main jobs when they aren't actively flying: work out, and sew. Their shops have several industrial sewing machines in them, and they are excellent with them. You rank up and need new patches on your uniforms? Leave them in the swimmer shop with a six-pack, they'll get done better than any shop you might take them to. A lot of the survival gear gets made or repaired by them, so they have to be good.

So it's just funny that the most hardcore, masculine men (and women) in the Coast Guard all sew for a living.