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[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Also maybe don't make me buy a car through a dealership. Why can't I just order and car and it gets delivered to my house instead of making me pick it up from a dealer that gets to charge whatever they want for being a middle man on top of the cars already being too expensive.

Side note and probably hot take but I think if manufacturers were serious they would be rushing to phase out most of their combustion vehicles. If people want a new car it's going to be electric and if they don't want EV then they can find a nice used car and pay a premium for gas.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Laws have to change for direct sales of cars, mostly at the state level. Dealership owners also happen to be big donors to state elected officials.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure about that. Interstate trade is the sole domain of the federal government technically. If you are in Tennessee buying from a manufacturer in Detroit, I would think that federal laws would override state laws. Realistically, I'm not so sure how that works okay out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's been this way for decades without a serious challenge. Tesla has tried and largely failed to fight this (whatever else you might say about Tesla).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think part of what Tesla failed at was opening direct buy dealerships in states, which becomes Intrastate commerce. They do allow you to direct buy, just not from the "showroom".

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Tesla... failed... at? Have you seen how profitable that company is now?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Tesla failed at (one thing) is not the same as Tesla failed completely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think context is important here. We were talking about how Tesla failed to open direct to consumer dealerships owned by Tesla because of state laws.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I suppose that understates it. They failed to get laws changed in a few red states. Considering how they can't produce vehicles fast enough, I don't know how much that even matters.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Most states with sales taxes include auto sales, so it's also that they bring in a ton of government revenue.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Dealerships in the US are a cartel backed by the government. Multiple states have laws banning direct sales - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_US_dealership_disputes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I would like an electric car next, but I live in an apartment where I couldn't charge it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Talk to your landlord about adding the infrastructure. It's trivial for them to add 50 AMP rv-style outlets to one side of the lot, and you can then plug in your own mobile charger.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

landlords of apartment buildings don't like doing things like this or any other type of thing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Take a look at Aptera. Specifically for this use case.