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[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I want and have wanted an EV since 2013.....can't afford one. So to be clear, it's not a matter of wanting, it's a matter of making an affordable one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That and long distance travel are my concerns. Will I have to keep stopping for long charging sessions. Will there even be a charger on the route at all.

A third concern is how safe the lithium batteries are for charging, it would have to be inside my garage that is on the 1st floor. I guess it's probably not too much of a concern but I worry about even leaving small lithium batteries charging unattended.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You could drive from New York to la in a model three with about twelve 30 minute stops. Given that it's a multi day drive, you can even fold a charge or two into overnight parking. While that is more than a gas car, it's not horrible.

New York to Miami is about six stops. I would have to stop around the same amount of times in my relatively fuel efficient ice (30 mpg), though (some) of the stops would be significantly shorter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

That's not as bad as I thought. Do you still have to plan your route out to make sure you have a charger available? Do you ever get stuck waiting for someone to finish charging?

I usually end up going 1,000 miles or so in a single day. Maybe stop to get gas 2 or 3 times for a couple minutes each time. Ends up being 13-16 hours, so try to keep the refueling to a minimum so it doesn't carry over into another day.

Not sure how I could charge in my family's rural area or if they would even want me using their electricity even if it could use a regular outlet.

Ideally I think I would prefer some sort of simple battery swap. Also would need another company, I wouldn't buy a Tesla just because of Elon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Tesla cars have a route planner built into it that will send you to the fast chargers along the way.

Some of the other newer non Tesla EVs do the same thing. There's also a free app called a 'better route planner' that does this to for any car.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

BYD have made great strides in that area. good, cheap EVs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

$32,000 minimum is not even close to being cheap

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

BYD's least expensive EV is far less than $32k USD, but in any case I suppose it's a matter of perspective.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

how you gonna buy one in the US?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why would I care?

But to answer your question, the word you're looking for is "import".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

the article is talking about ev sales in the us. i guess i should have just assumed you were too dumb to read the article. also importing is a good way to add 10,000 to the price

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I'm not sure why there's so many slow, dumb fuckers like you on Lemmy, but fyi, I said two sentences.

Importing and such has nothing to do with the topic. They are making good, cheap (sub $32k usd) cars. That is a fact. Their cars - and most importantly, their batteries - are available outside of China. This is a fact.

By virtue of making good cheap cars, and making them available outside of their national borders, it does dramatic things to the rest of the industry to follow suit.

For example, you don't think Tesla's price drops have been in a vacuum, do you?

But whatever. You're dumb as shit, and think arguing on Lemmy makes you less of a waste of space.

It doesn't, and you are.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Or, you could read what I wrote, instead of what you think I wrote.