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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago

The whole AFAB only shit makes me almost glad we have the "FLINTA is alienating to transmasculine people" discourse in my country instead.

You see, the most common way of saying "women +" in German progressive circles is FLINTA, which stands for women, lesbians, inter, nonbinary, trans and agender. They really try to cover everyone who isn't a cis dude and that works really well as long as you need a catchall term including everybody marginalized around gender issues. It's like an easier way of saying "not an endo cis dude". But then you have people trying to apply the label to spaces they want to mark as "women only" and suddenly you have the problem of labeling a bunch of people who really do not want that as "women light". The FLINTA label fits fine if you want to say "cis and trans women, he/him lesbians and non-binary, inter and agender people that do not fall on the transmasc side", and that's usually the way it's meant as, "women and woman-ish gender identities". But it automatically also means inviting trans men and masculine presenting inter, non-binary and agender people into spaces where they are either forced to out themselves and explain themselves at every opportunity or where you're basically rubbing it into their faces if they do not pass and everybody just reads them as butch women.

Still better than "AFAB only housing" tho.