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At least 10 of the Israeli civilians released by Hamas, both men and women, were sexually assaulted or abused while in captivity, the Associated Press reported Wednesday.

In a report detailing allegations of severe and widespread sexual abuse by Hamas terrorists during their October 7 onslaught and later against hostages, a doctor who treated some of the 110 hostages released from captivity told the AP that at least 10 men and women among those freed were sexually assaulted or abused.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If the two countries had parity and equality, that polling would suggest that the Palestinian citizens are awful.

But I'm our reality where Palestine is an open air person where the majority of people are children because the life expectancy is so poor, that kinda changes things, doesn't it?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'd personally say no. Perhaps this is a privileged mindset, but I don't think there are any circumstances that justify the intentional murder, torture, and rape of random civilians.

I can certainly understand how that mindset would evolve given the circumstances - living your whole life oppressed by a foreign government with no real opportunities could easily lead you to dehumanize anyone associated with that nation - but it doesn't excuse it. I'm sure plenty of Jews after the Holocaust wanted to murder every German they saw, and again, while I would understand that mindset, it wouldn't excuse the behavior.

And even on a pragmatic level, devolving down into our baser instincts just means that whoever has the most guns wins, and that certainly isn't the Palestinians. Whether it's just or not - and I'd generally say it's not - there exists no path of violent resistance that leads to an independent thriving Palestine, no matter or fair or unfair one might think that is.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Your conflating hating other people with actually murdering them. The poll shows hatred, not murder.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, over a thousand Israelis were murdered two months ago, and this poll is expressing support for that.

So it's, at best, support for murder.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

And over 17000 Palestinians were murdered as a result. What's your point? And mind you the situation for Palestinians in Gaza is rather grim, if not clearly horrific, with their homes turned into rubles not having access to food, water, electricity, not functioning health care system, living in makeshift tents with no sanitary conditions. Can you put yourself in their shoes? How would you feel and what your opinion would be towards the reason of all this suffering.

Perhaps people in Gaza are truly desperate, and you can't really expect much common sense from desperate people who are pushed to a corner.

The only way to fight terrorism is to give those people hope, a better future, fair treatment. Slaughtering them and dehumanizing them is like trying to put out a fire with fuel.

And it is a bit naive to think that the goal of Israel is only to get rid of Hamas. By now it is pretty obvious that Israel cares very little about the human suffering of those people. The goal is to turn the whole of Gaza into an inhabitable desert.