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[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Generational fights are stupid and fix nothing.

Edit: Emphasis on fix.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eh, 80%+ of American boomers support genociding Palestinians while only like 15% of young people do. There is certainly something going on

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I know it's wrong to generalize, but when I saw a poll in October that 70+% of americans over 55 explicitly supported Israel cutting off food, water, and power from Gaza, I had a hard time interacting with random old white people without assuming like they most likely lack basic human morality

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

true. that said, every elder millenial must undergo a reeducation process.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Absolutely fair

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Please don't lock me up and force me to read Marx.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Counterpoint, virtually every societal problem we have now is a result of boomers tearing down a mostly working system to make sure there was nothing left for anybody after them.

If there isn't something uniquely wrong with boomers how come every poll of "should we do things that improve society or keep fucking everything up" has boomers in support of fucking everything up by 40 points compared to millenials.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Boomers didn’t do that, the forces of capital did. No matter what generational cohort was present, the drive of profits and privatization are inexorable under capitalism and cannot be defeated. It’s the fate of all succ dem nations to be ripped apart by internal contradictions and domestic capital

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Pensions were a thing.

Then boomers decuded that instead of paying into a system that future generations would benefit them thay actually just wanted it all now.

Same with Medicare and medicaid

Same with the environment

Same with housing.

Literally every single topic has seen negative progress because of the decisions of boomers, which subsequent generations have been working to counteract.

I'm not going to give the guy turning the crank on the orphan crushing machine a pass just because "the orphan crushing machine exists, somebody's going to turn it"

Especially if you're then going to argue the people actively trying to get them to stop crushing orphans aren't any better than him

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

These aren’t decisions. Capital tightens as the rate of profit falls. Austerity is a force like gravity. There’s nothing the boomers could have done that would resulted in a different outcome except to overthrow capitalism.

None of the efforts from “subsequent generations” will be able to reverse this trend and “counteract” these decisions. You won’t ever get these things back without major social upheaval and revolutionary actions. It will be even worse for your children and grandchildren, if nothing is done and we stumble onwards. They will blame your generation for pulling up the ladder too if they use your logic.