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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Unpopular opinion: I think it's great that a car exists that wasn't designed by committee and says "fuck it" to sensible design principles. It'll be a commercial failure, but a collector's item in 30 years.

[–] BrikoX 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would agree with you if it wasn't a design that ignored safety regulations. Current design is not even road legal in the EU due to steel panel thickness being against the maximum allowed limit.

[–] darkevilmac 1 points 11 months ago

I see people mention this a lot but I'm not sure if Tesla as a company really cares. Pickup trucks are not huge sellers outside of North America from my understanding.

And that's just pickups in general, the Cybertruck is pretty big. I'd imagine a majority of the sales would be for smaller pickups.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think you could have both a unique looking car, and one that is somewhat sensibly designed.

So many sacrifices of the cyber truck are done just to be different. Like the $100 windshield wiper that spans the entire windshield. That's just bad design for the sake of uniqueness.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I own a Tesla and this is one of my biggest gripes: dumb shit just to be different. Not good, just different

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Same, even the stupid door handles are like on the 3 and Y. If I'm picking someone up who's never been in my car before I often open the door for them because it's exhausting to keep explaining it to them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget to tell them it's a button to open it from the inside, not the handle for emergency exits!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The more I learn about Tesla's vehicles in real life, the more I think they must be designed as a joke. The inside parts literally fall off, the windshield wipers cost $100, the handles won't work if a button breaks, the full self-driving isn't as good at recognizing obstacles as my 2017 Subaru is, and I don't even remember what else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

the handles won't work if a button breaks,

This isn't quite right, there's a button to open the door (one of like nine buttons in the entire car) but there's is also a lever you can pull in case of emergencies.... Like if the car's electrical system fails.

Everything else is true.

There also is no physical way to open the glove box, you have to use a voice command or dig through the settings on the built-in tablet.

There also is no physical way to set the wiper speed, that's also done through the tablet or voice command. There's a button to do a single wipe, or clean the window if you hold it down, but no way to keep the wipers on without taking your eyes off the road.

Don't even get me started on how absolutely stupid it is that you have to remove two inner body panels to change the cabin air filter.

There's so many of these types of things, it's ridiculous. The sad part is that it could have been a pretty nice car if someone on the design team had just an ounce of common sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wow, the more I learn about these pieces of junk, the worst they seem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I actually kinda like my model 3 quite a bit, but I got it used for an absolute steal of a deal. I would never pay full price for a new one or even recommend someone to buy one themselves. If you're into Teslas, you don't need someone to recommend them to you.

It is so close to being a really good car. It's fun to drive, pretty comfortable, lots of head and leg room and it's really efficient in city traffic.

It feels like a team of mechanical engineers were cut midway through the design process and a team of software engineers finished the job.

It's just so freaking quirky for no reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Also seems like it would be a bitch for deaf/mute people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't even know what it means to be "on the 3 and Y".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

The Tesla models are S, 3, X, Y, and cyber truck. Tesla models 3 and Y are comparable to the BMW i4 and the Ford Mustang Mach-E

(yes, the dipshit made an immature sexy joke out of the car names. )

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Tbh they are not the first car manufacturer to do that. Think Citroen did it about 40+ years ago.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Thats why I always have a soft spot for french cars, everyone else is just following the germans.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Just to play devil's advocate here, that also means that you'd be wasting astronomical amounts of time and money to develop something the market doesn't want. It doesn't make much business/financial sense to sink so much into a failed project but since musk came up with it we have to look at it.