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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is why you need unions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I like unions and I don't think this is an example otherwise. But, why does this highlight unions? This is a dude that didn't write a check. I don't think he would have paid bonuses to a union either. It seems to me, a judge would be needed in either case.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Union contracts leave things less open to interpretation, union advice helps employees understand that this is a legal issue, and coordinated legal action and representation help you win the fight in court.

Leaving it to individual employees to individually see the problem, recognise they have legal standing, then fight Phoney Stark's infestation of lawyers isn't super-realistic, and turns the employment contracts into nothing more than a weapon to fuck with the employees, because Musk can just ignore anything in the contract favourable to employees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This was an oral agreement that a judge found binding. This shit happens to unions. Again, I like unions and think these employees would be well-served by one, but it's hard to see this example as "this is why we need unions".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unions aren't silver bullets - but they're bullets nonetheless, and that's good enough most of the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

With that, I agree. It doesn't answer my question, but I'll gladly agree with you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The court, famous for siding with the workers over the bosses in all but the most egregious cases.