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[–] [email protected] 97 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I bet morale is so fucking high if you're employed by Twitter right now.

Not only has their "boss" shown to fire people indiscriminately, he is also willing to fuck over whatever contact they've sign.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I feel like at this point only the Elon worshipping tech bros still work there

[–] [email protected] 61 points 8 months ago

Honestly it's probably mostly immigrants on a work visa and people who haven't found another job and can't afford to quit without something lined up. Sure, some of them are still there because they're Elon stans, but I don't think even they would last long without extenuating circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or people that can't escape for whatever reason.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I love a good loss for Musky.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago

It looks good on him.

And not much does.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Who wants to bet one of the arguments he wanted to use was "Twitter doesn't exist anymore, I run a platform called X, therefore well don't need to honour any Twitter contracts "

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

So far Elron's excuse is basically "well, I had my fingers crossed"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Would something like that not be possible as a private company, essentially dissolve and make another? (Not just rename it)

Of course for that to work at all, all the employees would have had to sign new contracts.

And all of this please probably would have had to happen at purchase time (edit)

Probably still not possible even then if everything was done perfectly.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Some people say stuff like "well bet he didn't get rich by paying his bills! Yeah!" He didn't get rich by not paying his bills either. I knew a lady who inherited a large urban motel and was quite wealthy, and she'd buy 65 cent dozens of expired eggs on sale and be all excited that it was a bargain. It's part of their pathological attachment to having more money, and in Elron/Trump's case, complete disregard for other people and moral principles.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He never got rich in the first place. He was born rich.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sure, though not as wealthy as he is currently.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

But that's kinda the problem, right? Piketty's central thesis is that above a certain amount of critical mass capital has a sort of gravity that almost inevitably attracts more wealth to itself at an exponential rate, and only truly cataclysmic events (either on a personal or societal level) can disrupt that accrual. People like Elon, Trump, and all the other failsons and nepo babies populating the millionaire and billionaire class are walking proof of the theory -- even if he wasn't keeping pace with the larger market, Trump still managed to make Daddy's money last until now, and he's self-evidently less intelligent than most small rodents. That wasn't any special talent on his part growing the family fortune -- it's just (effectively) ambient cash getting caught in the gravity well of his inheritance and falling past the event horizon, in spite of his dumbassery.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

If he did get rich by not paying his bills, then that would be even more fucked.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is why you need unions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I like unions and I don't think this is an example otherwise. But, why does this highlight unions? This is a dude that didn't write a check. I don't think he would have paid bonuses to a union either. It seems to me, a judge would be needed in either case.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Union contracts leave things less open to interpretation, union advice helps employees understand that this is a legal issue, and coordinated legal action and representation help you win the fight in court.

Leaving it to individual employees to individually see the problem, recognise they have legal standing, then fight Phoney Stark's infestation of lawyers isn't super-realistic, and turns the employment contracts into nothing more than a weapon to fuck with the employees, because Musk can just ignore anything in the contract favourable to employees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This was an oral agreement that a judge found binding. This shit happens to unions. Again, I like unions and think these employees would be well-served by one, but it's hard to see this example as "this is why we need unions".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Unions aren't silver bullets - but they're bullets nonetheless, and that's good enough most of the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

With that, I agree. It doesn't answer my question, but I'll gladly agree with you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The court, famous for siding with the workers over the bosses in all but the most egregious cases.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

Christmas is running early this year.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Still looking forward to Lonnie's eventual collapse. He's imploding in slow motion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I just hope SpaceX doesn't go down with him

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Why? Everything SpaceX has done Nasa has already done. If anything SpaceX is taking resources from public programs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago