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Objectives of Israel’s and Russia’s Wars ‘nearly Identical’ - Did Lavrov Shift Position on Gaza? (www.palestinechronicle.com)

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In a strange shift, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov was quoted as saying that Israel’s war on Gaza is identical to Moscow’s military operation against Ukraine.

The comments, attributed to Russia’s top diplomat, were cited by Russia Today in an interview on Thursday with RIA Novosti.

“The goals declared by Israel for its ongoing operation against Hamas militants in Gaza seem nearly identical to those put forward by Moscow in its campaign against the Ukrainian government,” RT quoted Lavrov as saying.

According to the Palestinian Ministry of Health, 21,320 Palestinians have been killed, and 55,603 wounded in Israel’s ongoing genocide in Gaza starting on October 7.

Palestinian and international estimates say that the majority of those killed and wounded are women and children.

Many international law experts have accused Israel of carrying out a genocide in the besieged Gaza Strip.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Some push an actual ideology, but yeah, nationalistic self-interest is pretty common around the world.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Literally what other standard could a nation possibly use to engage in foreign relations? The difference between nations with the same ideology is their relative position in the global and regional power structures. The difference between nations with different ideologies is their understanding of what constitutes their national self-interest.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wow, so cynical. You're sounding a bit like the other end of the political spectrum there.

Ideally, actual concern for things like universal human rights would be considered. You could argue nobody really does that, but I'd argue it shows up a bit. The Soviet Union supported the crap out of any number of nations that were never going to pay them back (not least their own republics), and America actually tried building democracy in Afghanistan and basically lost the war because of it. It would have been pretty easy for them to just arm another brutal junta, or take the Chinese approach to central Asia and gradually eliminate or replace the local population entirely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You sound delusional. The US lost the war because they tried to build democracy in Afghanistan? Listen to yourself. Honestly? There's no possibility of having a conversation about national self interest and how human rights factor in if you believe shit like the USA was genuinely motivated to build a real democracy in Afghanistan.

Get started deprogramming yourself. Listen to Blowback. Read their sources.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't really like podcasts; I find it hard to catch everything they're saying, or alternatively to listen through the parts where they're not saying much. You're better off citing Das Kapital like the other "anti-imperialists". It's barely readable but at least I can pull a quote without playing scribe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Blowback is a highly produced audio miniseries. It's a fundamentally different experience than an improvised free wheeling podcast. Listen to it before you make excuses for your miseducation.