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How to deal with people that see capitalism as the issue but discourage any praxis or AES? (hexbear.net)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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How do people deal with left-leaning liberals that see that capitalism is leading to the inevitable destruction of human society, even recognize Israel is committing genocide, and other progressive opinions but refute every revolution or revolutionary action. The "communism won't work because human nature", "the USSR was communist", "(Stalin|Mao|Castro) killed x million but the US killed 5,000 in industrialization", state dept. parrots. How do people talk with those that get so close but refute any praxis. I know this topic has been discussed before and links to other talking points would be good.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Get them to take their very first step by attending an action or joining an org.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

"how do I convince people to do praxis who think it's not worth it"

"get them to do praxis"

Just poking some fun, no hard feelings cat-trans

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that is actually the thing to do though. Don't entertain their ignorant doomerism, just get them to go to something well-organized. It's actually less effort to have them go to an action with you and have lunch or dinner afterwards than to try to come up with rhetorical stratagems to work around someone that can't see a path forward.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yea this is pretty easy in my experience to drag good friends to events though OP seems to be working with "people" in general which may just be an issue of lacking trust and credibility amongst the people they're agitating

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

True that, though if you've got enough charisma/pull it can also work on randos. It's a good skill to practice, even.