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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that's mostly what I remember from history textbooks at school, plus some stuff I observed from living in a relatively small town in Russia, plus some of my family history and talking with older folks who actually lived in USSR.

Crazy thing about anecdotal evidence is that I can have some too that literally directly discredits yours having known some oldheads of my own. So whose internet anecdote friend wins out lmao.

The number's cool and everything, the question is - how it was obtained. For example, newborn mortality and that of mothers that gave birth might've taken a huuuge toll, and then it obviously decreases when we roll out proper hygiene and vaccination.

Even if it is average and not proper accounting of the actual lifespan, if there are so many child/birthing deaths that your life expectancy is getting dragged that far down... that is sign of a deeply unhealthy society.

Was that done in the tsar Russia? Idk.

Extremely easy information to find... https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/

Also, even if Alex the Second was a bit of a liberal tsar (conditions were still terrible for most), do you know what happened under his evil-minded tyrant of a son Alexander III? Because politics are not stagnant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, anecdotal evidence suck in general. Guess I'll dig deeper now that discussion sparked some interest 🤣

that is sign of a deeply unhealthy society

A (huge) bit of a stretch, but I can attribute some of that to old habits dying hard and general state of medicine at the time. I mean Semmelweis discovered that treating tools and medical apparel with chlorine vastly reduces the risk of developing childbed fewer around 1850, and before that having more gore and gross around seemed desirable, and even then the idea was mostly rejected :/ Definitely not the only reason, but a possible one for sure.

do you know what happened under his evil-minded tyrant of a son Alexander III

I don't remember the details, but yeah, dude decided to unload a shit ton of conservatism :/