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"Imperialism only counts if it's Western, otherwise it's just sparkling liberation" (media.kbin.social)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Russians steal Ukrainian children, they've multiple times been caught mass executing civilians too.. Their side iterates that Ukraine doesn't exist, like Putin implied.

Putin wants to eradicate the Ukrainian national identity.

[+] [email protected] -18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The official narrative is that Ukrainian government is illegitimate and ruled by Nazis, abd the country needs to be "liberated" from their rule. It doesn't strongly assume destruction of Ukraine the state, but clearly indicates that Russia or its puppets should be in charge.

And even then, there are many stateless nations, and I don't think Ukrainian identity is the one that is easy to erase.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The official narrative is that Ukrainian government is illegitimate and ruled by Nazis, abd the country needs to be “liberated” from their rule.

Okay but we, over here on the good side of the sanity line, know that's not true, right? It justifies nothing.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely, it doesn't justify any actions of Russia in Ukraine, and I never said so.

I just say the Putin's endgame doesn't necessarily include Ukraine losing statehood (but it would certainly become a puppet state with all the negative consequences).