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Would Putin have invaded Ukraine if Trump was president? (hexbear.net)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is mostly correct, I don't believe for a second Trump had any idea what he was doing with that LNG terminal, I seriously honestly doubt he even knows what LNG is, this is literaly the clean coal guy so that part of the explanation is rough imo. IMO Trump would have been more likely to say fuck Ukraine once he realized the majority of the right wing base wanted war with China instead.

While liberals were quick to make Ukrainians into honorary whites, as far as chuds go white christian fundamentalist Russia is already as "white" as it gets so there would be no benefit on a political level to be "tough" on Putin. Why would he do that? To please libs only.

The thing with Trump is that you're ultimately correct there was only minor differences in the grand scheme both served US imperialism very similarly, but otoh Trump does have that unpredictability and personal petty/ego that somehow manages to bypass all the common sense/no good principles of being a neoliberal ghoul.

To put it bluntly Trump doesn't care nearly as much about any sort of grand US project or even political power(on a world level) as much as living life like a literal king. Competent neoliberals can't afford to be this shallow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I agree in the sense that neither Trump nor Biden know what they’re actually doing, they simply carry out what the neocons are telling them to do.

I disagree, however, with the “realists” faction who think the US can ally with Europe and Russia against China. In fact, I am one of the few people with the unpopular take that the “neocons”, as deranged as they are, are actually correct in their assessment about the US geopolitical position. Post-2009 crash, the US simply does not have the capacity to counter China if the EU (the second largest economic body in the world) takes China’s side.

While the EU was also weakened by the post-2009 recession, it was also saved by Nord Stream and allowed a relatively rapid recovery of their industrial sector. This is why the EU has every incentive to move closer to Russia, and eventually China. The US financial capital also suffered massively from the 2009 crash, and they are rightfully afraid of the EU exerting its influence to tilt the balance of power towards China.

In other words, the EU must be destroyed before the US can take on China. And that means engineering a war with Russia and forcing Europe to abandon its Eurasia ambitions. It is simply too risky to leave the EU unchecked.