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I've noticed that in both Belgium and The Netherlands there has been an increase in war talk lately, saying how we need more military personnel and that we need to be wary of Russia. I've seen some British articles about it too.

Now, I hope it is purely coincidental otherwise I'd have to get worried about EU+UK being complete idiots and preparing for war.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Germany is discussing reintroducing the military service requirement.

The German defense minister is clearly saying that Germans must prepare for war, not just in the material sense of getting the Bundeswehr into fighting shape but in the socio-political sense of "the government and military can't go to war if the people are against it, and the government damn well wants to go to war so we better get the propaganda rolling."

It's a scary time to be alive.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This one is genuinely scary... but I have no idea how they'd introduce it without massive resistance, and it blowing up in their faces.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Higher ups of the army literally protested the reintroduction of conscription because the army lacks the infrastructure and personnel to train such a high number of new recruits. But Material reality never stopped the German government from passing asinine legislation.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

It's just gonna happen, without resistance.

Fascists like it, because of nationalism and the prospect of having a huge army to "defend" ourselves. The liberals will be very easy to convince to toe the line. Leftists are a small group, and half are basically liberals anyway.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Well it's not just a coincidence then it seems, because the same talks are happening in other countries. They must have decided something behind the scenes.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Seems like they're going to pull a Russian Civil War type of scenario should Ukraine lose. All the propaganda points to this idea of Russia going after the Baltics and then all of Europe after beating Ukraine.

Or it could be the result of electing right-wing nationalists that do nothing but saber rattle when they haven't fought a conventional war since the boomers were children.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Or it could be the result of electing right-wing nationalists that do nothing but saber rattle

The libs are just as good at it yea

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Yes: the Ukraine mess proved America that proxy wars are very profitable. It doesn't matter who wins as long as they make money, so now they want the whole Europe to fight Russia. The EU will comply because it's a puppet of USA, so we are very very fucked.