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Live coverage thread of the International Court of Justice and the case of South Africa vs. Israel.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When a court orders you to reverse an action, it's a recognition that you are currently engaging in that action.

So when this court ruled "that its (Israels) forces do not commit any of the act in the genocide convention."

They are stating that Israeli forces are, in fact, committing acts covered under the genocide convention.

If they weren't, there would be no need for the court order.

Now, Israel's defense could be that any genocidal action is the act of individual soldiers or units and is not official Israeli policy... I don't BUY that, but it's plausible deniability.

In this case, now, the court is saying Israel has an obligation to stop it regardless of who ordered it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't read it the same way you do.

I read it as in your way to school tomorrow make sure you don't play in the road.

During your invasion of Palestine ensure you don't commit any of the acts outlined here

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

The problem with that reading is we already know Israel is on the wrong side of the genocide convention (bolding mine):

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

"In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

a. Killing members of the group;
b. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
c. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

d. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
e. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."

Israel is already engaging in A, B, and C. So it's not a matter of telling them to not do something they are currently not doing.