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What seemed to be thoroughly established in the last thread about this is that leftist fame -> suspicious murders. However, the one thing the men mentioned had in common is that they were all peacemakers, even if they fought cops, carried a rifle, or knocked other guys out in a ring. They sought first to unite people and provide for people, only resorting to violence when something got in the way of unity and feeding the hungry.
From my perspective, transitioning, I think that what most men need (and what most great communist leaders have) is a kind of peace within themselves. A lot of the issues I had with my own masculinity, cis men also have with their masculinity and public impotence (but they actually want to perform it better instead of exiting entirely). If you solve this with a power fantasy and romanticize projections of power then you get empty patsoc hero worship which, as we have seen the past few years, is no better than alt-right hero worship. A person who can be at peace with themselves and their community will naturally come to the conclusion that they have something worth fighting for when their peace comes under threat. This is very obvious when you read the works of Palestinians, Zapatistas, and other revolutionaries. The love they have for their community and their humanity precedes the desire they have to destroy threats to the way they live and their pathways to unalienation.
However, when we look at oppressor nations in the west, whose entire culture is built upon exploitation, we arrive at the situation where asking the workers of the global north to give up something of themselves for the good of community and of all communities leaves a bad taste in their mouth. They flock to influencers who tell them there's something in it for them, that they, too, can climb the rungs of power to finally feel in control of their own lives (of which they feel almost no control at all). They don't realize that this is a lie, because society will continuously tell them their entire lives that they just need to try a little harder to get there. Just one more chance and they'll make their big break (after all, others have succeeded, why shouldn't you?). To see through the lie, you have to shut out all these voices, all the propaganda, the constant unending exposure from birth to death. They won't do so willingly until you propose that you have something better. Which I think is why Patsoc rhetoric is more enticing. Patsocs do copy the self-help grift but on a national scope: "Look at these successful socialist countries. Wouldn't it be great if you could also benefit from this kind of power?"
When I've debated with men hopeless about their position in society, they tend to fall back on this; "How is communism going to take care of shut-ins like me?" "Will communism do something useful like get me a girlfriend?" and other similar questions (don't even get me started on guys I've known irl who think it's their moral duty to control women). They are so used to viewing things through a lens of exploitation that they can't fathom an equality where they don't receive a greater share of crumbs from global superprofits. So while we preach "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need," in practice, the path of liberation requires a great deal of self-sacrifice. Being concerned with the well-being of the masses comes at a cost when fighting the unconcerned exploiters who will grind us to dust for trying to be good people.
So how do we give western men a community worth fighting for when they don't even have the psychological toolset to appreciate such a community? Some of the worst chuds will profess loving and being willing to fight for their nuclear family (even fighting imperialist wars or becoming police officers to do so), but the nuclear family, especially as they envision it, is designed for their own ego and is constructed in service to them. What they have to come to understand is the necessity to serve others — not for recognition, fame, or an esteemed post in the social order — but because to serve in-itself will make them happy. Some men do take that leap, even in the face of further poverty, imprisonment, or death. It's worth it to them. Some of them are even posters here. But it's not a particularly popular proposition, especially with the frequency western leftist movements are crushed. For that, I don't have a good answer.