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[–] [email protected] 72 points 6 months ago (5 children)

In the US, there's a concern for salmonella or other bacteria and viruses. Factory egg farming is a horror show in regards to overcrowding and hygiene. Sick birds are crammed in with healthy laying birds, and washing the eggs is one of the safest ways to prevent contamination.

It does increase the permeability of the shell, decreasing shelf life and requiring refrigeration.

If your eggs looked like this in the USA, there's a small but non-zero chance that you'll shit yourself to death. Probably not, but it's scary enough.

We could improve factory farming regulations so it's not a like a Cronenberg movie, but then eggs would be more expensive. And even if we did, and stopped washing our eggs, Americans would still want them to look clean and would still keep them in the fridge because we've been conditioned to expect to die on the toilet covered in wet feces if we see bird poop on the eggs.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Fwiw, the eggs wouldn't have to be more expensive, the eggs cost what the market will pay.

The only change is that the people profiting from your poor food conditions will profit slightly less.

This is a common lie they tell everyone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They won't profit less, line must go up. They'd charge double the difference and blame immigrants and Obama.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

sure they could charge more, but the market wouldn't swallow it so they would sell less. if they could charge more for eggs, they would be doing so right now, for extra profit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They would collude. All eggs would go up just like during covid, and they wouldn't lose any sales.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

If they could do that, they would do that right now. If they could charge more there's nothing stopping them from doing that today. We are already at the maximum price they can charge.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Keeping unwashed eggs in the fridge at home helps them last longer, as long as you don't leave them out to sweat.

But yeah here in Sweden, we rarely ever get salmonella recalls since the chickens aren't strapped to a box here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If your eggs looked like this in the USA, there’s a small but non-zero chance that you’ll shit yourself to death. Probably not, but it’s scary enough.

Unless you got it from your own chicken coop

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Right, but if you keep chickens for eggs, you already know all of this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Chickens are vaccinated against salmonella (and a bunch of other things) when they are chicks in Europe. It means you don't need to worry about shitting yourself to death, the chickens are slightly happier by not being sick, and your eggs stay fresher for longer.

It would probably add $0.005 per egg, so US producers will claim it's communism if a regulation is brought in to vaccinate chicken, but it would be worth doing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You mean you put 5G tracking devices in your chickens?

Really, though, getting poultry farmers to spend a penny per dozen eggs is like trying to squeeze water from a rock.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it helps one find them if they run away

They've made a documentary about it back in the day: chicken run (2000) movie screenshot

[–] Honytawk 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They recently made a new one with up-to-date info on the security of those chickens

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Fuckin finally. The tryna high road the Europe and shit like they don't have poor chicken treatment situations too. Its all down to vaccination requirements. They the treatment of chickens cause both places have issues lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Refrigerating the eggs end to end costs money too, possibly more. I don't think it's about ongoing cost but rather upfront cost to switching.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

At what point do people not just think that maybe going vegan isn't that bad of an alternative

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Store bought anything is pretty bad nowadays, at least speaking as an American.

Produce often has listeria, ecoli, salmonella, etc outbreaks, it’s ridiculous. Extends to eggs, spinach, lettuce, radishes…anything. Going vegan doesn’t solve this problem unless you’re only eating what you grow at home.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

But eggs are yummy. Baked goods, thickened sauces, omelettes and deviled eggs and egg salad, you can't really replace them with vegan alternatives. Aquafaba is pretty close for some of it, but people like their eggs and don't care about how much their food suffers before we eat it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Right around lunch time it starts looking less appealing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

It is way too challenging in my mind at least. I do one meat meal a week and veg the rest. All the fun stuff has milk and eggs in it.

But hey you do it if it makes you happy.