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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sponsors are not YouTube's responsibility and they dont see money from it.

While it might increase Premium subscription rates, creators will be driven even further away from YouTube - if your content isnt ad monitised, and sponsors are getting blocked, why even upload?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I very much believe they are Youtube's responsibility. I pay to see no ads, so I don't wanna see ads. Full stop. I am not sure how true this is, but creators say that when YT Premium subscribers watch they get more revenue. With that they should be required to mark sponsor segments which get automatically skipped for Premium subscribers.

Also I started using sponsorblock only one year ago because I think within the last few years lots of creators have overstepped the mark whats tollerable for me (promoting scams, sponsors taking up 1/3 of the video, ...)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is it any different from product placement in movies or TV? Do you take Netflix to task because some random episode from some random show had a Sony laptop prominently on screen? I don't understand how that's YouTube's responsibility.

What next, you want to sue the government for having advertising billboards on roads because you pay taxes? In an ideal scenario of course it wouldn't exist but that's not the world we live in and it's certainly not going away.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It's way different from that. It's one thing to have a Sony laptop on the screen, it's something entirely different to go on a 30 second discussion about Raid Shadow Legends, Nord VPN, etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So YouTube should build a way for creators to tag sponsor content, and a system to skip it. Despite them not profiting off said content.

It would just create a new arms war of disguising sponsor content, or only including little bits throughout the video. Can the system tolerate 3 sponsor blocks? What about 15 blocks, what about the sponsor playing in the little insert with no audio, how does the blocking work then? If the sponsorblock is imperfect, their official tool either removes legitimate content, or doesn't work well enough - both piss off the viewer and have made the platform worse.

Or, YouTube accepts no responsibility for what does not cause them a lawsuit (like with DCMA/ContentID), or directly lose them money (ad blocking without premium).

If your preferred creators are putting scams or excessive sponsor spots, either report them, start financially supporting them or stop watching them. Many responsible creators have patreons or alternative services that they don't do that shit on.

I dislike most sponsor spots, I agree with you, and wish my android box supported sponsorblock properly, but I don't think it's YouTube's responsibility to help me - the creator felt it should be in the video - not YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think the point is that there's no way currently for a YouTube creator to use a business model (even if they wanted to) where some sponsors spots are excluded for premium subscribers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

android box

are you talking about tv?

because there's smarttubenext for that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Imma check that out. Casting support/breakage may end up being an issue, but thanks.