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[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Not really though


from NPS:

The hottest air temperature ever recorded in Death Valley (Furnace Creek) was 134°F (57°C) on July 10, 1913. During the heat wave that peaked with that record, five consecutive days reached 129° F (54°C) or above.

I think the dinosaur moment would be more of a global phenomenon, e.g., rising ocean temperature. My understanding is that Death Valley is obscenely hot with or without humans. The rising ocean temperature and melting ice caps, on the other hand...🦖🌎💥

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

There's doubt about that 1913 temperature being reliable. More likely the 130°F in July 2021 is the actual record.

Also, what's remarkable is not the record high temperature, but the fact that these temperatures are consistently returning each year.

Not even Death Valley is spared by global warming.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, global warming was kind of a bad name for it. Because yes, it will get warmer globally on average, but also colder, drier and wetter at certain places. Northern Europe might get a lot colder when the Gulf Stream is gone for example.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The term "global warming" first appeared in print in a scientific journal article authored by an American geochemist in 1975. I think the mistake isn't the naming, as it's an accurate name that succinctly describes the issue. I think the mistake was not realizing how profoundly science illiterate the American public was at the time and still continues to be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I'm not questioning the sad state of scientific literacy, then or now, but it really wouldn't have been all that difficult for the news media to properly explain the issue.

I graduated high school the year before that article was published.

While in high school, I wrote reports on the "greenhouse effect". I later found myself helping my parents and others grasp the actual effects of "global warming." Poles heating faster than the tropics. Shifting weather patterns that would cause some regions to at least temporarily see a period of cooling, etc.

If I could do it, getting it right was certainly within the capabilities of university trained journalists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

When I first heard about it in school in the 90s, the preferred term seemed to be "global greenhouse effect", which still implies warming but better describes the underlying physical principle.

But now we should really call it "global climate catastrophe" or "global climate extinction event" to communicate how dire the situation is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

That 1913 number has been looked on dubiously for over a century. The current numbers are not.