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Yeah, I want to go vegan, at least eventually, or maybe cut down on the meat, at the very least.
Cut out dairy and eggs first if possible, they're far far far more cruel. Only eat meat coming from big animals so less murder happens for the amount of meat. Don't go a cheese breather vegetarian as a "more moral" option, because it's far worse for the animals.
"cheese breather vegetarian"?
I'm, err, out of the loop on that one!
But yeah, for the record, I'm not sure if I want to go vegetarian at all (because I don't think I have the willpower to do so and, also, it's a big decision to make that I'm just not ready for... well, yet, anyway).
So for now, I want to eventually go vegan.
But yeah, I'm putting a star on your reply so I can save it for later. Thanks!
There's a weird cult of vegetarians whose entire life and personality revolves around ludicrous consumption of cheese. Cheese is absolutely addictive, I felt withdrawal when going vegan.
How is vegan easier than vegetarian?
OH
Maybe I have it the other way around.
Isn't vegetarian = absolutely no meat or anything related
and
vegan = some meat-related products but certain things cut out
???
(I may have gotten them mixed up)
I effed up.
Vegetarian = no meat, everything else is on the table
Vegan = no animal derived products. No eggs, no dairy, no honey, hell if a food product is made using yak spit, no bueno
Gotcha
Vegetarian = no meat, but usually other animal products like dairy, eggs, honey etc
Vegan = no animal products. Animals are friends, not things to be exploited.
A lot of vegetarians use vegetarianism as a compromise thinking "at least I'm not eating animals", without realizing that the dairy, egg, and honey industries involve killing a ton of animals too.
Thing is, I'm Turkish so honey comes naturally to me.
I should give that up too, but that's going to be the hardest.
I might be a bit clueless on this but why cut out honey? Is it really that exploitative for the bees?
>Honey is created when bees suck the nectar out of a flower, regurgitate it, and process it with other bees back at the hive. In their natural states, they use this honey as a food source during winter. But on honey farms, beekeepers take that honey and replace it with a cheap sugar substitute—one that’s insufficient to meet honeybees’ nutritional needs. As a result, honeybees die of over-exhaustion attempting to reproduce the honey that they require; others die of starvation or malnutrition, while others develop weakened immune systems and contract diseases.
Apparently so, and in more ways than not?