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[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

Has anybody claimed responsibility for this yet? This doesn't sound like the Ukraine. They hit strategic shit.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Not seeing anything yet but it can be hard to get accurate news reporting from a country that kills subversive journalists and is in a war. I think most are assuming it's either an internal or external paramilitary group related to the war in Ukraine, or domestic terrorists related to the recent elections, I think targeting a concert is more likely the latter but we'll see which group takes responsibility if any.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

But Russia will immediately blame it on Ukraine and the west anyway lol

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago

Likely despite US intelligence warning about imminent terror attacks in Russia earlier this month.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Maria Zacharova (Kremlin) seems to think the most important thing right now is that the whole world condemns the attack, which I find to be a kind of weird priority since the thing just happened and we have no fucking clue what is going on.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You can still condemn it even if you don't know exactly who's behind it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Absolutely! It wasn't my intention to insinuate that you cannot. My point is that she was very quick to come out and demand it be done. Of course terror attacks should be condemned. All I'm saying is that the Kremlin has some weird priorities when there's an ongoing attack. Almost like they're trying to control the discussion and steer it towards something else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah not an extemely useful propaganda plot device at all then. You're not with the terrorists, are you? You better stand up and clap your hands and stomp your feet in sympathy.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Maria Zacharova (Kremlin) seems to think the most important thing right now is that the whole world condemns the attack

nah I don't condemn anything. Either it was some pro-ukranian group (fair, bring the war to russia!), or more likely, some covert op from the fsb so that this russian cunt in charge can order a new drafting...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is never fair to murder civilians. I don't blame Ukraine if there is terrorism and insurgency due to the occupation of eastern Ukraine, that's firmly Putin's fault. But that also doesn't make it ok.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

And suddenly here you are standing together in sympathetic unity with The Kremlins. It's hard making people see propaganda when they have become so desensitized to it

Let's hope Putin will find some way to finally stop the forces of evil defiling his land after this.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

The article mentions the US warned of an imminent attack last month and the Russian state dismissed it. Russia also has a history of utilizing false flag operations to start shit, so I’m leaning towards that atm (before more details come out)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean… Putin did get into power by running false flag terrorist bombings on his own country, so there’s that angle too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yea, but to stay in power all he has to do is rig the elections, so that theory doesn't really make sense. I am not saying that a false flag attack is out of the question, but if it is a false flag, the reason for doing it is probably not to keep Putin in power.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (2 children)

PSA. It's Ukraine, just Ukraine. Not "The Ukraine"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That and Kiev/Kyiv have been enlightening since this whole thing kicked off. I’ve got a couple Russian language textbooks but think it’s time to update to some Ukrainian

[–] rottingleaf 2 points 8 months ago

It's like Cologne/Köln, doesn't make sense as a point of contention.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Where did "the Ukraine" come from? Was it spawned from the Google?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

IS has apparently claimed responsibility via telegram

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Russia is not against doing false flag terrorist operations. That is how Putin came to power.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Also Putin is not Russia

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This would have the opposite effect for Ukraine. It would cause Russians to actually rally around the flag and be more pro war. The Ukrainian strategy has been to just kill Russian combatants and hope they kill enough that Russians themselves start protesting the war on the home front.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

And blow up oil refineries that fund the war machine.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It wouldn’t surprise me if this was Putin’s doing. He has a history of committing violence against him own people and blaming others.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

US intelligence wanted them weeks ago about an impending attack

Gunmen went in armed, met zero resistance, were busy for over an hour, no police ever showed up.

IS claimed responsibility pretty much immediately.

Putin ignored all that and obviously blamed Ukraine because of course.

This is no false flag operation, Russia would never.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Poor Russians, always the target of unprovoked attacks. How did the US know beforehand anyway? Super sus!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Per the article, no one claimed responsibility

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Yep, was hoping for updated news.