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They supposedly can be disabled in settings- but we all know that won't last. They're going full Microsoft Skype mode and it's only a matter of time.

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[–] [email protected] 247 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I've grown with ICQ, MSN Messenger, TeamSpeak, Skype, several local chat apps, then people obsessed with Facebook Messenger, then Snapchat... I just know any particular chatting app is a temporary fad that will eventually end, it's just their cycle. Don't get attached to them.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Same here. I'm just surprised at how well Signal is holding up.

[–] jaykay 58 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately it’s difficult to get people to switch to it

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And they didn't make it any easier by removing SMS support from the mobile app.

It was pretty easy to get a couple of my friends to switch by saying it's just another SMS client that also supports highly encrypted messaging with other people that use Signal. Now that it's standalone, nobody will even fucking touch it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

which is weird, I don't know any other country that still uses SMS other than the usa, for chatting.

it's for 2FA from banks (which are now switching to authenticator apps) and bulk scams mostly that I can see.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Canada. Now you know two! Granted, we are basically the 51st state at this point...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

America's hat/touk!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I use sms quite a lot when network conditions are bad... with poor service (rural areas) or heavy congestion (sport events) SMS messages piggybacking on voice channels often stand a better chance of getting through than anything that requires an Internet data connection on 4G. That said I do have unusual use cases, the other 99% of the time normal messaging apps work fine.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think it’s because texting became essentially free in North America long before it did in Europe. That, combined with the fact that it came preinstalled on EVERY phone (Android, iOS, BlackBerry, Palm, you name it), gave it enough inertia to stay dominant decades later.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I know it’s probably not the right word for this context, but downloading an app and creating an account is factually a huge barrier for entry, because people are lazy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I got rid of Signal when they got rid of SMS because literally nobody I've ever met uses it and they're not gonna switch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

It's unfortunate, I had just gotten a few people to take it up.... but that progress is lost. People prefer convenience over all else and having to use 2 different primary message apps sucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

If only they had functional data backup and export on non-Android platforms…

[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (3 children)

door opening sound knock knock

I can still sometimes "hear" ICQ, and that's going on almost 30 years ago now?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I still have the "uh oh" sound - use it on my phone for notifications.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Same, however, I keep my phone on vibrate so I never actually hear it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I hear you! 🤣

I so want a smart "watch" just for subtle notifications, with vibration patterns that can be configured.

I'd even pay for an Apple device, if it could be made to work well.

Oh, and it needs a battery that can last 3 days at least, preferably a week.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I can still recite my ICQ number off the top of my head

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

And then you wonder WTF you want my age, sex, and location.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I remember mine, and my childhood best friend's Prodigy account IDs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Okay, now you guys are making me miss CompuServe.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Big spenders here, NetZero crowd checking in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Always kept the Netzero around, but the best were the fly-by-nights who were sure they could run a successful business without Juno or Netzero's investment or technical debt by just asking you to pretty-please use their site as your home page.

Well, "best" for as long as they lasted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Ha, same. Best thing I can do for my social security number is "That looks about right".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

39148895 add me plz

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Mine is 6 digits long and I remember it too. The whiteboard function was particularly fun.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh yeah, I've been through the same. Discord was nice while it lasted.

TS and Matrix will hopefully be the replacements I use if I can get people to switch. A lot of discord communities are heavily entrenched though, which I'm sure they're banking on to maintain momentum as the service quality continues to degrade.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

A lot of discord communities are heavily entrenched though,

Entrenchment enables Enshittification, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

As a casual user I find the entrenched communities more of a bug than a feature. Reminds me of reddit cliques. But, I do get your point, and I agree that the inertia will be a challenge when it comes to getting groups to migrate.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

I miss MSN Messenger... it was part of my childhood.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sir IRC is still going strong!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

The difference is you're not relying on one corp with IRC.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

In Matrix we trust

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

One will stick once it's sensible