this post was submitted on 02 Apr 2024
1064 points (95.9% liked)

Programming

17528 readers
245 users here now

Welcome to the main community in programming.dev! Feel free to post anything relating to programming here!

Cross posting is strongly encouraged in the instance. If you feel your post or another person's post makes sense in another community cross post into it.

Hope you enjoy the instance!

Rules

Rules

  • Follow the programming.dev instance rules
  • Keep content related to programming in some way
  • If you're posting long videos try to add in some form of tldr for those who don't want to watch videos

Wormhole

Follow the wormhole through a path of communities [email protected]



founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Microsoft employee:

Hi, This is a high priority ticket and the FFmpeg version is currently used in a highly visible product in Microsoft. We have customers experience issues with Caption during Teams Live Event. Please help

Maintainer's comment on twitter:

After politely requesting a support contract from Microsoft for long term maintenance, they offered a one-time payment of a few thousand dollars instead.

This is unacceptable.

And further:

The lesson from the xz fiasco is that investments in maintenance and sustainability are unsexy and probably won't get a middle manager their promotion but pay off a thousandfold over many years.

But try selling that to a bean counter

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 265 points 7 months ago (4 children)

It's so ridiculous that this isn't even brought up:

The Command you provided worked fine. Thank you so much for the help! Really appreciated! We are going to proceed to make a release today and test with customers. Will post the updates here.

Gotta love being a forced beta tester... I mean customer.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That does kind of admit what we all suspected about Microsoft's QA since they fired the whole testing team in 2014.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Meanwhile Google has always just forced you to go to Google Groups to log bugs in production software.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

If the live version is already broken, there isn't much to lose deploying the fix as soon as possible. Not sure what else they could have done here.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago

Yup. Shits fucked. Do what you can. Lol

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are likely other changes made since they released that version to their customers, so the risk is other things in addition to the current thing get broken.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is zero chance that they'll just build from the latest main branch and release that tomorrow. Or that whatever build they make goes directly to general distribution.

They'll make a build from the last release plus this patch and send it to a few customers who have complained. Then they'll think about making a release with this and perhaps other bug fixes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

If the Microsoft person making this request can’t update a command line switch, I seriously doubt they will try to build from source with a patch.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

isn't that what a canary release essentially is?

[–] treadful 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Man, must be rough to be an MS engineer and do work in public. Ignoring the financial aspect, can't say I've never had a similar ticket and resolution.