askchapo

22764 readers

428 users here now

Ask Hexbear is the place to ask and answer ~~thought-provoking~~ questions.

Rules:

Posts must ask a question.
If the question asked is serious, answer seriously.
Questions where you want to learn more about socialism are allowed, but questions in bad faith are not.
Try [email protected] if you're having questions about regarding moderation, site policy, the site itself, development, volunteering or the mod team.

founded 4 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

Why do people here really not like Trotskyists? (hexbear.net)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

132 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Why do people here really not like Trotskyists? Is it just because of his beef with Stalin and not an actual criticism of his views? Do people really not think a global movement would be superior for the betterment of all people?

Edit: Thank you to everyone who provided context and history, y’all are a wealth of knowledge.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The disruption thing I have some experience with. I worked a little with the ISO in college since they were the only game in town. I was at a meeting where they wanted to go disrupt a local Green party event. They didn't phrase it like that, they were saying we should go to their event and try to sway them into joining the ISO with pamphlets and papers.

I asked why we should do that instead of just joining them and the organizers seemed super confused. Like there was no possible way we could work together if they were still the Green Party and we weren't. One guy there called them Stalinists?

I should also mention everyone involved in this was like 21 years old at maximum and I was 18. So for years I just thought we were dumb kids until I learned that kinda thing is common

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

I do love it when the local green party are Stalinists

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

trot groups in england were very heavily infiltrated by cops for decades as were others in the west. Search "swp" in the Undercover Policing Inquiry published evidence

there was a zine I read years and years ago that explained how (and maybe why) trots love making front groups to ruin every little progressive project. It was before all this infiltration stuff came out but when it did, everything made sense. The title was "monopolize resistance" I can't find it online.