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Big Tech passkey implementations are a trap | Proton (proton.me)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Big Tech has implemented passkeys in a way that locks users into their platforms rather than providing universal security
Passkeys were developed to replace passwords for better account security, but their rollout by Apple and Google has limited their potential
Proton Pass offers passkeys that are universal, easy to use, and available to everyone for improved online security and privacy.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If I can't add your passkey to my local KeepassXC database, I am not using your passkey.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You can also host it yourself.

https://bitwarden.com/blog/host-your-own-open-source-password-manager/

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yea, I know. But my preference is for my password manager to not be cloud at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don’t mean to be pedantic but self hosted isn’t cloud.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't it require cloud activation?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It requires a key and id they generate.

https://bitwarden.com/help/install-on-premise-linux/

Though from the instructions, I’m not sure if the install needs continuing communication outbound to function.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yea, I understand, and it's a perfectly valid choice. But does that disregard people's preference to not bother with this at all?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think I understand the question.

To be clear, the alternatives are valid choices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That was a rhetorical question. What I wanted to say was basically "if it is only supported by Big Tech walled gardens and some open, selfhostable cloud password managers, I am not using such passkeys, because for me it is far more comfortable to have my password manager fully offline".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Eh, easier to just use the same password for everything.

I use 12345, personally.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Huh.. same as my luggage.