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“There’s no ambiguity about the data,” said Gavin Schmidt, a climatologist and the director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. “So really, it’s a question of attribution.”

Understanding what specific physical processes are behind these temperature records will help scientists improve their climate models and better predict temperatures in the future.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know what that means.

You made a claim, I said nuh uh, you said prove it, I said you ought to be proving your claim since the entirety of history about your claim in the broadest sense shows the opposite, in the specific sense you’re making it we have an example of your claim being wrong in our living memories and even if somehow your claim were actually true it wouldn’t lead to the result you try to show.

Put up or shut up. Explain how showing people around you that it’s possible to live without fossil fuels will change behavior in aggregate.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So you have no evidence for your position.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

If it’s not clear that I have provided plenty of evidence:

You said

Individually, what you do is tiny, but as you show people around you that it’s possible to live without fossil fuels, it changes behavior in the aggregate.

I said nuh uh, you said prove it and I said

When the plastics industry, an industry concerned with the mere byproducts of fossil fuel extraction, realized that public opinion was turning against their products, they created a multibillion dollar campaign to convince everyone that those plastics were fine and would be recycled even though the technology was never available or cost effective for large scale use and all that plastic waste was just getting dumped in landfills and shipped across the ocean to foreign landfills.

That misinformation was the accepted wisdom for thirty years.

That’s what the industry concerned with the unavoidable byproducts of extraction and refinement of fossil fuels did when everyone started to turn against them after literal decades of grassroots propaganda around litter.

They gaslit the world into believing that it was okay to use plastics for packaging because they could be recycled.

I showed evidence that boycotts won’t work. Show me evidence that they will.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

So let's summarize:

  • You make a dubious claim
  • I ask for evidence
  • You claim that I'm the one responsible for evidence
  • I point out how you're trolling
  • You say again that I'm the one who is supposed to give evidence
  • I point out that this makes it clear you have none
  • You tell me that I'm a troll

If you had evidence, you'd have shown it by now. But you don't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Except I already did provide evidance/links, never claimed you needed to provide evidance (though you never did provide any to back up your claims).

So yeah, above is wildly untrue.

Troll.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And now you pretend to have had evidence. You didn't

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)