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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (5 children)

To be fair, getting an impartial jury in this case is a lot harder than it would be normally.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's what happens when the defendant is a polarizing fascist asshole.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, but that's not a crime and he shouldn't be punished for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

He chose to have a jury trial. Juries are inherently biased. It's impossible for anyone to have missed the past 8 years of almost daily coverage of the dumb things he says and does.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

No idea why you got downvoted. Nearly everyone will know who he is, since he was the damn President of the country. Nearly everyone will know a lot of stuff about him, since he never fucking shuts up on social media. He has a large percentage of the country who loves him and a larger percentage of people who absolutely hate him. Finally, the case and jury selection is in New York, where he has been in the news for 40 years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

People seem to think that a prior opinion about the dependent automatically means that a potential juror cannot be impartial. All that is required is that the juror can render a verdict based solely on the evidence presented at trial. Plenty of people with strong opinions about Trump himself can still be impartial jurors.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yup. And those 10 strikes are for exactly that. If you can’t prove a juror will be biased but suspect they will be, then you can use one of your 10 strikes to exclude them. But you have an unlimited amount of “for cause” strikes, where the juror has admitted that they wouldn’t be able to stay impartial.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure that's true. Even a person with a great deal of integrity and respect for the law is going to be biased subconsciously to some extent by the knowledge that this case may change the outcome of a particularly important presidential election. A person whose respect for the law is less than absolute may even consider affecting the outcome of the election to be a moral obligation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

More autistic people should be jurors. It would be the perfect job for certain autistic people who are very rules based.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I agree. I am autistic and was a jury foreman about 20 years ago. It was pretty awesome, and I was helping keep the other jurors in line, reminding them when evidence submitted was deemed immaterial and not to be considered in our verdict...all that stuff. 10/10 Would perform my civic duty again (12/10 with rice)

It would be an honor and a privilege to be on Pissbaby Don's jury just to have the opportunity to find him guilty, but I'd have to avoid a for cause strike to do so. Thankfully, part of my autistic skill set is that I happen to be a fantastic liar. I don't lie to people I care about, apart from spinning fantastic tales and then saying, "Naw, I'm just fucking with you. 😏"

For Joe Schmo, rules-based impartiality. For Republican politicians, self-affirmed white supremacists, shit-stirring talking head bigots, and JK Rowling though, get fucked, here come your god-damned consequences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hi government please choose me as juror I definitely will not intentionally give him the maximum sentence

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The sentence isn't determined by the jury.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I agree. Trump has done everything possible to spread his propaganda and poison the jury pool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

That’s why they’re not allowed to ask nix people for being biased.

Everyone already has their opinions. The best they can do is look for people that aren’t dogmatic.