this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2023
448 points (98.3% liked)

World News

39161 readers
2070 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Traffic on the single bridge that links Russia to Moscow-annexed Crimea and serves as a key supply route for the Kremlin’s forces in the war with Ukraine came to a standstill on Monday after one of its sections was blown up, killing a couple and wounding their daughter.

The RBC Ukraine news agency reported that explosions were heard on the bridge, with Russian military bloggers reporting two strikes.

RBC Ukraine and another Ukrainian news outlet Ukrainska Pravda said the attack was planned jointly by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) and the Ukrainian navy, and involved sea drones.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Death of civilians in Crimea wouldn't happen if Russia didn't invade.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'd have still gotten their shit blown up by Kyiv, who has been blowing up everyone who voted in a referendum to become Russian. Fucking christ am I the only one capable of remembering anything more than two fucking years old? Or is this another one of those "conveniently ignored" bits for y'all NAFO rimjobbers?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't worry, I remember what happened before 2014. I didn't have any sympathy for separatists then and I don't have now either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...So for the crime of wanting to separate from an increasingly-fascist government, you want their bridges blown up and their civilians turned into chunky salsa. You're a fucking ghoul; and part of me wonders how you'd feel about American separatists when that day eventually comes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how you’d feel about American separatists

If they want to join Canada or Mexico then the same. Independence =/= stealing for another country.

you want their bridges blown up and their civilians turned into chunky salsa

Nobody is forcing Russians to visit Ukrainian territory.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You're a fucking ghoul, and I pray you wind up having to live through the monstrosity you'd subject others to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"The 2004 Madrid train bombings (also known in Spain as 11M) were a series of coordinated, nearly simultaneous bombings against the Cercanías commuter train system of Madrid, Spain, on the morning of 11 March 2004—three days before Spain's general elections. The explosions killed 193 people and injured around 2,000. The bombings constituted the deadliest terrorist attack carried out in the history of Spain and the deadliest in Europe since 1988. The official investigation by the Spanish judiciary found that the attacks were directed by al-Qaeda, allegedly as a reaction to Spain's involvement in the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq"

On 6 July 2006, a videotaped statement by Shehzad Tanweer was broadcast by Al-Jazeera. In the video, which may have been edited to include remarks by al-Zawahiri, Tanweer said:

What you have witnessed now is only the beginning of a string of attacks that will continue and become stronger until you pull your forces out of Afghanistan and Iraq. And until you stop your financial and military support to America and Israel.

Tanweer argued that the non-Muslims of Britain deserve such attacks because they voted for a government which "continues to oppress our mothers, children, brothers and sisters in Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq and Chechnya."

Targeting civilians with explosives because the country they are citizens of is engaged with war is decried as "terrorism" so are you stating that the Ukrainian officials responsible for this are terrorists?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The bridge is a military target though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's a bad faith argument if ever there was one. At that point Russia could walk into any country behind human shields and nobody would be allowed to do anything.

There is a giant difference between targeting civilians and a couple civilians getting killed while targeting strategic infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is it bad faith?

Intentionally targeting civilians because they country they are from is at war with the country initiating the attack is called terrorism by many other countries. Ukraine could have focused their attack on disabling the rail line, which is the primary aspect of the Russian supply chain, instead it was against the civilian roadway, exactly the same as the previous attack utilizing the truck bomb. Exploding vehicles is another common mode of terrorism, I might add.