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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The USSR and China were much more widespread examples of eliminating landlords, both were vastly successful. They were third world countries with terrible conditions, both became global superpowers, all-the-while providing housing at a vastly more reasonable rate.

China has since regressed on this, and they're starting to feel housing troubles as landlords destroy the housing market through scalping, but for a long period they were improving.

The best example is probably the USSR during the 70s. Still a country with vastly less wealth than America, recently developed into a global superpower, but still was providing housing to citizens at an average of 5% of their income. America has been operating very consistently in the 30-80% range for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I think Cuba is a better example of this, even though it is a tiny country.

The only people who are homeless in Cuba are those who choose to be. Other than that, they have managed to provide housing for all of their population even despite the harsh sanctions and lack of resources that Cuba has compared to other countries.

I am not saying Cuba is perfect or anything, but it really shows how countries like the US have the resources to solve the housing problem.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The USSR is by definition a second world country

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Correct, notice my phrasing. They were third world countries, they became global superpowers. Never even used the phrase first world country.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Okay, I can see where you are coming from, but as far as I know, the terms "first/second/third world country" originate from the cold war, where USA (+Allies?) were named first world countries, USSR was second world and the rest was third world.

The usage of "third world" as derogatory is maybe a more recent thing, but it's kinda ironic calling an original second world country a third world country