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These remind me of the post-1906 earthquake shacks. Better built attached housing would likely let people live better at a similar, if they could manage to agree on reasonable rules about living just a bit closer.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Americans will do anything but build townhouses

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

Americans will do anything but embrace economic policies that benefit the working class.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Man I would actually consider this over sharing a wall. If you've never had a very loud, persistent neighbor you just don't get it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Just build a good, thick wall. If you can hear your neighbor through the wall, your house is shit

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Cool that you had the privilege. That, or you built your own apartment complex?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

You better hope that wall can keep out the bed bugs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The most effective wall you can build is a concrete block wall/insulated air gap/concrete block wall. It seems like overkill but this is the type of construction that cinemas have between individual theaters. The only way to get more isolation (aka the "good, thick wall") is to decouple the walls, and at that point you're at separate structures anyway which adds the advantages of fire breaks and not having to have a legal entity governing common components like that roof.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Do you have a link to more info about this design? I'm also curious in achieving the same thing in floors, so even someone jumping up and down with steel toed boots can't be heated between floors

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Townhouses are everywhere on the mid-east coast.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

And here in the west.

The problem is that they're often in groups, away from the city center, and nowhere close to transit. So we need even more roads to get everyone with their cars where they need to go.

What we need is mixed zoning with transit in mind.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

They exist, buy definitely not as common as makes sense for people

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

We need denser than that but it would be an improvement.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The shift is a response to conditions that are found in cities across America: Neighborhoods that used to be affordable are being gentrified, while new condominiums and subdivisions mostly target the upper end of the market, endangering the supply of “starter homes” in reach of first-time buyers.

The iconic Cape Cods in Levittown, N.Y. — often considered the model post-World War II suburb — were typically about 750 square feet, roomy for a one-bedroom apartment but small for a free-standing house with two bedrooms.

Driving through the downtown on a snowy afternoon recently, Deborah Flagan, a vice president at Hayden Homes, pointed left and right at storefronts that used to be boarded and are now part of a vibrant ecosystem of retailers that includes numerous high-end coffee shops, a “foot spa” and a bar where people drink craft beer and throw axes at wall-mounted targets.

The upscaling extends well beyond downtown to adjacent neighborhoods, where the small-footprint “mill houses” that once served a blue-collar work force now sit on land that is so valuable they are being slowly erased by two-story moderns with seven-figure sales prices.

Toward the end of the snowy driving tour, Ms. Flagan pointed toward one of those old mill houses — a compact, ranch-style home with fading yellow paint and a white picket fence pocked with broken boards.

Its business model is to deliver middle-income housing that local workers can afford, Ms. Flagan said, and it does this by skipping larger cities like Portland and Seattle in favor of lower-cost exurbs like Redmond (where the company is based).


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why not a trailer home at this point?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Mostly if you live in one, you own the house but not the land. This means the landlord takes the bulk of the equity instead of the trailer owner

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I’m not terribly against this kind of thing, houses are huge

I wish they showed more of the interiors, and you know, those tiny side yards could probably be squished down, or even removed, to build row houses that increase living space and density.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Enough fucking sprawl.

We don't have enough surface for homes, hoarded greenspace lawns, all the roads, plus wild space plus farms plus plus plus...

Build up. Tax the hell out of anything single-family or single-storey.

Tax credits if density builders buy a home adjacent to wild space or farmland, and hold it through its rezoning back to something beneficial so it's removed from the sprawl machine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

This looks exactly like what some urbanists have complained about, a lack of "missing middle" housing between apartments and large single family dwellings. Sounds good with me.