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[–] [email protected] 66 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's also fitting that this guy is wearing a red shirt.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

This guy's got the right idea.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's ok crewman #6, we're pretty sure you have a last name.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Did you ever think you might be the plucky comic relief?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Of course I have a last name. It's Yar.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Wouldn't that be funny if like, someone splashed water (or coffee?) on their shirt and while changing it (and thus it was off), managed to survive the horror that killed everyone else?

And then did it again, and again, and again - until eventually they realized that it was literally a fundamental law in the universe that redshirts die, not just bc they are security and thus the first line of defense, but literally because they wear red shirts!?

TNG explored that thought I suppose, several times, especially with the Moriarty story arc.

I just love thinking about things like that :-P.

In the case of redshirts, it would be unethical to test the premise empirically though.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

In the case of redshirts, it would be unethical to test the premise empirically though.

Experimenting on their transporters clones however....

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You'll want to read John Scalzi's Redshirts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

TOS security were red shirts. TNG rearranged the colours and made command red to try to kill the red shirt meme

When people talk about red shirts dying they are referring to the original series colour scheme

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I thought they changed the command to red because Patrick Stewart looked better in it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Oh, so that's why I was confused coming from STO and watching the new movies and show.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The uniform changes in The Wrath of Khan led directly to the death of Spock.

And Scotty was able to dodge the Reaper's hand for all that time because he's just that awesome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Scotty is definitely an aberration. ~~If someone did live inside the Matrix or holodeck, it would be quite difficult to prove, having to jump all the way from one method of thinking (peak) through a huge local minimum all the way to the next peak, without benefit of smaller steps to help. In this case, what I mean is that "redshirts often die" is itself only a first order approximation of the real underlying truth: that there is a main cast of characters, a secondary cast that may repeat, and then the redshirts who are literally fated to die.~~ He do be just THAT awesome, yes!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Commander Riker: Let's beam down to the surface. By the way, Lieutenant McMichaelson, congratulations on your upcoming wedding! I understand that as soon as we're back from this no-doubt totally routine away mission, you and your soon-to-be bride are going away to meet her parents on Lovely Wholesome Vacation World Alpha 7.

Lieutenant McMichaelson: [dawning horror of narrative awareness noises]

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I highly recommend the book Red Shirts by John Scalzi if you haven't read it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Suder was in two episodes fo Voyager

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought Brad Dourif did a good job for those two episodes for what it's worth!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Oh yeah, I loved Suder. I wish we'd gotten more of him

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The two exceptions:

  1. you’re Riker viewing a holodeck simulation of past events in objective mode
  2. you have had your fans write in to the show that you should stay on before your episode even airs.
[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Argyle didn't die, he just quietly left for a job in Los Angeles hunting alien traffickers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Or you're going to have to kiss Wesley later.