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[–] [email protected] 61 points 5 months ago (7 children)

If you start slowing down sooner, there's a higher chance that the light will turn green before you're fully stopped. Then you can blast past the people stopped in the other lane.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Even better: learn the pattern of the traffic lights in your commute, and don't slow down if you see it will turn green in less than two seconds.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's how you t-bone the idiot who doesn't stop at the red light

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The only way to avoid that would be to stop at every green light.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're right, but I think the number of people that run a just-turned-red light far far outnumber the people that just ignore the light altogether.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

True. If you're smart enough to time the lights to avoid stopping, hopefully you're also smart enough to watch the cross street and never assume other drivers are obeying the rules of the road.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

unless some asshole decides to stop in your lane before you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Treating green lights as safe = RIP

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Sometimes the opposite happens, though. The aggressive driver hits the light just before it turns yellow, and everyone who didn't drive like a hooligan had to stop. Depends on how well timed the lights are.

That said, people in general need to start coasting to a red light at least twice the distance away that they do. I've gotten passed by people where I'm coasting, there's a red light ahead, and there's no reason at all to hurry. Coming to a full stop is a waste of energy, and you should set yourself up to avoid needing to as much as possible.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This coasting trick works until there's enough of those assholes in a hurry that they all rush ahead to stop in every lane. Now all the sane drivers have to stop too. If I'm feeling plucky, I might honk and flash my brights at those "gotta pass everybody to stop first at the light" types like they're the slowpoke in the way, which they kind of are at that point. Usually I just keep quiet and imagine that they're in such a hurry because they are either about to or have just shit their pants.

Beware though, coasting past stopped traffic just as the light changes is a good way to get T-boned by another careless ass hat that just ran the other light.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (11 children)

The real trick is coasting to a stop in an open lane next to the person in a hurry; then if the light turns green, you're still moving and you can zoom right by them, which is incredibly satisfying.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

The coasting thing is how I ride my motorcycle. It's so satisfying when you don't have to stop and put a foot down for a light because it turns green while you're still rolling.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Do you drive a BMW by chance?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Every time. I love watching them aggressively weave in and out of traffic, endangering everyone's safety on the road, only to take the exact same amount of time to get where they're going as the people driving the speed limit or slightly faster than the speed limit.

Entitlement is a disease.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Aggressive weaving is obviously wrong so I am not defending that, but sometimes I'm just driving +10 and have had folks go berserk. Cut me off, block a merge, etc. All I can do is give them space to perform their anger ritual.

If no one is in front of me, I'm going to go my preferred speed. My goal isn't to get anywhere faster but to enjoy the trip. Remember to grant others the same grace you grant yourself.

Anger is a health consideration whose outcomes are often on par with a disease. So don't let those dummies raise your blood pressure.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Me too, I love driving, I love acceleration. I will let it eat from just about every light. I don't care. If you're going under the speed limit or take half a mile to get to speed, yeah, I'm the asshole passing you for it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (5 children)

as an expat in the US why do Americans think like this except the only time it really matters: merging on the on-ramp on a freeway?

In Europe we're taught to get up to speed (in the US this would be 65mph most often) by the time you're at the end of the on ramp, but most people I see merge at 40-50mph into a 65

why?!?!!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (9 children)

I wish we had different classes of drivers licenses in the US for commercial cars. Like a Class 3 license could only allow people to legally drive basic cars (sedans, station wagons, minis, etc.), and to drive things like coupes, muscle cars, sports cars, and those kind of cars you need a Class 2, and to drive light trucks, SUVs, Jeeps, and Hummers, you need a Class 1 license.

I sorta think it would actually help with road rage and aggressive driving since it would at least require those kinds of people to actually demonstrate they can safely drive those kinds of cars.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I used to wish that I could get some sort of racing license so that I could legally exceed the speed limit. The speed limits are ridiculously low, written for the worst possible drivers. I've been successfully exceeding the speed limit for 30 years without incident. Since we'll definitely never have a special license that lets you legally speed, I just got a radar detector and now I'm happy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

At risk of making driving less predictable… how about licenses for more aggressive driving too?

No right turn on red (unless Rated ++ or higher)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I think if you're caught driving like a jackass (not simply speeding, but weaving in and out of traffic, tailgating, blocking the passing lane, that kind of assholish behavior) in addition to a ticket, you should have to keep a vehicular "dunce cap" on your car. Like a pizza hut driver sign but it identifies you as a moron to everyone. This would have to be on there until you take an extensive driving course to learn to be better.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I never know which lights I'll beat by driving faster and which ones I won't, but I know I'll beat a few.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Remaining consistent, keeping up with traffic, and not being an asshole who blocks lanes is the bigger key.

People want to drive faster? Go ahead. In the end they aren't wasting that much energy and might just be saving some by not having to idle in traffic an extra 5-10 minutes on their daily commute if lucky. Worse for others.

There's some lights on the way to work that are timed to occasionally let you get through if you go 12 above instead of under 10. Almost everyone on their commute hits that 12. You get some regulars who don't, not too big a deal, get in the right lane or more simply, let people have room around you to pass.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

I like timing it if possible to still be rolling when the light goes to green. Then you accelerate past the IHTBF still stopped for the light. Doesn’t happen often at all, gotta be nobody in front of you at the light and have the person who was shouldering their way through traffic stopped there. But satisfying when it does happen.

[–] Honytawk 9 points 5 months ago

I mean, the point is usually not to get somewhere faster. But to not drive behind someone that infuriates you in some way.

And since they are still in front of you, it doesn't matter. They will still start moving before you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I suspect that most speeding has nothing to do with being late, but with people being impatient and nasty

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Just gonna say that no one into cars that I know guns it from a red light because they think it'll get them anywhere faster. It's just because it makes us happy to do that. You're laughing at something we don't care about at all.

Even if you do care about that, it's not like gunning it never succeeds in getting you just past the next light before the red either.

Also, personally, it's much more comfortable to be at the front of the pack where I'm free to move, rather than being blocked in on all sides where my options to avoid an accident are constrained. This is honestly what I don't get the most about people who are part of rolling roadblocks. If an animal or person runs into the road ahead of you, you have literally nowhere to dodge besides braking and hoping.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I think this is a good opinion to have, generally. Fucking up cars just makes me happy. I key a vintage Volkswagen? Just brings joy to my heart

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Personally I don't care if someone guns it at a red light - I do that basically every stoplight on my motorcycle because I'm trying to get away from the cars - but I do feel pretty smug if I see someone do something like weave dangerously through traffic at double the speed limit only to be stopped by a light.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've been saying for a while now that this phenomenon needs one of those overly specific German words

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

ok i admit i have gone through an orange light to escape this specific scenario

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

While I'm sure it feels good to cautious drivers when this happens, IME it doesn't happen enough for the amount of snarky memes posted about it. If it happens even 50% of the time, the other 50% aggressive drivers do get ahead.

I'm not an aggressive driver, and I see plenty of aggressive drivers I never catch up with.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This. I’m happy for you that this red light gave you the satisfaction of one last look at me but once it turns green I most likely won’t be seeing you again lmao.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

it's the framerule in Mario Bros

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

So satisfying

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I love making fun of asshole drivers because they chose to pollute and they're making life worse for all of us normal people.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did this with a Subaru WRX driver yesterday. He still had temp tags. Probably was a good driver before he got that thing.

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