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Just spreading awareness about whatever the fuck Mojang thinks they're doing. Given their enforcement of the EULA, or the lack thereof, this probably isn't going to have as huge of an impact, but I think it's still something worth talking about.

Here's an article on dotesports.com if you don't want to visit Twitter.

The Minecraft EULA itself as of 2nd August. I've got the attention span of a rat on cocaine, so if someone could check if Rock solid's points are an accurate summary of the EULA, I'd appreciate that.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

All companies now are digging own grave for themselves. Reddit, ~~Twitter~~ X, Meta, Google and now Mojang. Interesting times we live in.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have any of those other companies you've named actually suffered anything?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Musk has sure as hell set Twitter up to suffer quite a bit. It's a train wreck in progress, but to the uninformed layman it just looks like Musk fucking shit up with little actual blowback.

The reality of Twitter is that it's royally fucked, it's just taking a while for the debt to build up to the point where it all falls apart. I expect a complete death of the company before November 2025. Just based on the debt load that Musk saddled the company with.

Reddit showed that they don't care about their community or their volunteer mods, and lost most of the best moderators. That train wreck is coming, but might take a few years. Their IPO is coming, and they will do something that pisses off the community more when it does. I don't expect a fast death, or a complete death, but the IPO will definitely hurt more than it will help.

Meta keeps getting fined by various countries, and keeps plugging along. Their Threads app is not quite taking off, but it doesn't need to... A shit company that will likely be around for at least another decade. After that, predictions become meaningless.

Google is trying to do a web DRM to get rid of adblockers. I expect a massive EU fine in the future, and then they will quietly continue being evil. They really shouldn't have gotten rid of that motto.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the rename of twitter destroyed a good chunk of value.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That's going to play out as well. There's a very good reason why X is a shit name.

But pair it with another word and it's alright. But Musk can't see that, because he's a fairly stupid man who used to hire smart people to run his companies.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the profit imperative biting them in the ass, you can't have exponential growth in a finite system so expect these megacorps to get more and more desperate (and draconian) as the bottom of the barrel draws ever nearer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are literally the #1 selling video game in the history of the world.

If that's not enough, the world is fucked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There is no enough, only growth. Growth at all costs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

They are attempting to extract as much wealth as possible before the collapse. I don't know what they're planning on doing with money if a collapse happens. Even a partial collapse would cause massive inflation making their dollars worthless if they don't transfer it out to something else. Unfortunately the Petrodollar exists so it's likely the collapse of the US dollar would trigger worldwide collapse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Don't forget Netflix

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I've been considering minetest the real successor to minecraft. It's just really decent, and it doesn't have all the risks of minecraft being controlled by someone else including opening the game being gatekept by their centralized servers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another one bites the dust. Sad to see Mojang digging their grave like every other company these past few weeks... I keep seeing MineTest poping up, might have to give it a try soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is minetest good? i remember it being kinda shit

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Minetest is confusingly both a game engine and a playable game. You probably only ever played the basic sandbox game it comes with by default and thought that was it had to offer. There exist much more feature rich and developed games on the minetest engine. many many games and mods and texture packs.

You may be interested to know about the game 'mineclone2' developed on the minetest engine, which aims to be a faithful FOSS clone of minecraft specifically. I am actually a dev of mineclone2 and can tell you I believe that it is the next best thing to the real deal. A lot of hard work and time and polish has gone into the game by many talented people. Its not perfect, there are rough edges, some things still need work, but its a stable and faithful vanilla experience. Its far superior to minecraft in both performance and modability. Plus bugs are getting squashed and more features are getting added all the time both to mineclone2 and the minetest game engine.

Mineclone2 git: https://git.minetest.land/MineClone2/MineClone2

minetest engine homepage: https://www.minetest.net/

Mineclone2 Lemmy community: https://lemmy.world/c/mineclone2

Mineclone2 mastadon: https://mastodon.social/@[email protected]

My lo-fi gemini proxy mirrors for minetest and mineclone2. https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/tilde.team/~smokey/minetest-mirror.gmi https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/tilde.team/~smokey/mcl2-mirror.gmi

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yes enable dynamic shading in settings and install the wield light mod to have holding a torch light up the surrounding area

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Isn't Mojang now a wholly-owned subsidiary of Microsoft? How is this not EEE?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

As always, you can always count on the money people eventually twatting everything up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A rat on cocaine would have an enhanced attention span

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That would be meth, my friend.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are we finally going to see the death of 2b2t? Thought it'd be around forever

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Afaik they're operating on an older version of the game and thus aren't subject to new EULA updates unless they update to a version of the game that comes out afrer this EULA goes into effect

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even if they updated to a new version, the hack clients developers would probably just update their custom clients to ignore Mojang's server ban list and call it a day.

The new EULA is a joke and it's easier to tell everyone to use a third party client (which is most of the time better than the official one) than try to abide to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The software 2B2T and other major servers run is typically custom made. The reason servers like 2B2T need a player queue is because the official Minecraft server software is garbage and runs everything on a single CPU thread, placing a firm upper limit on how much stuff can run on a server. Server networks like Hypixel shuffle players through lobbies and mini games on various different servers to spread the load, but since 2B2T is a single world, they have to run a custom, highly optimized server file to be able to handle their player numbers. If Mojang would invest in developing more scalable server software, player queues would be a thing of the past without having to ban them, but Mojang would rather harass server owners for having to accommodate Mojang's poor product than actually fix the underlying issue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Some time ago, I like making my own servers in localhost, for testing plugins, configurations and more, but this is not good. Where is the freedom to make servers at your own? Well, making not p2w and not breaking obvious things, for this part:

Servers with ANY content not suitable for 10 year olds are now prohibited

It just problem of the parents. Also.

Any server, piece of online content such as video or other may be taken down due to any reason whatsoever

    1. This can be regulated with plugins for chat if it is post on the chat.
    1. It's a problem of the owners who make these decisions, they can make the server better or not.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This shit is the reason I haven't touched Minecraft in nearly two years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ah, I guess, that would be why I saw this random mainstream streamer today "just checking out Minetest", while also having set up their own server for their friend group and everything...