Fuckin' what? Is this meme 10 years old or what?
this post was submitted on 06 Aug 2023
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I have G533 which are even discontinued from production, they have no real latency.
You clearly haven't used wireless headphones in last 10 years, have you?
If you use the gamingest headphones with proprietary dongles, you can get decent latency. But then you're sacrificing on sound quality or ANC, and if you have multiple devices you want to use them with (eg a console and a PC), you have to either physically move the dongle between them, or suffer with Bluetooth lag and connection hassles on one of them.
Bluetooth is still bullshit in terms of latency. It will get better with LE Audio, but whether it will get good enough is anyone's guess, and it's still in its infancy and support is almost non-existent.
yeah but if we incorporate Bluetooth in this discussion, then Bluetooth mice and keyboards suck for gaming just as much.
I completely agree with you on that, though. It baffles my mind how, in 2023, in the version 5.2, Bluetooth still sucks so hard in terms of latency.
I wouldn't consider Audio-Technica anywhere "gaming" related, can be pricey though.
I have a ATH-G1WL (wireless) and ATH-AVA400 (wired) and cannot hear any difference in sound quality what-so-ever, except the 3m cable I have to fiddle with now, which I also have to physically move when changing devices.
Bluetooth also sucks for mice and keyboard, so yeah...
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I'll never understand wireless keyboards. They just sit on the desk? Why go through the hassle of charging it?
You can use the Keyboards cable to charge your phone, when that s full you can go back charging and using the keyboard with cable.
Cables are ugly
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Wireless headsets are amazing. It is so nice to just be able to walk away from your desk while still hearing the video you were listening to
In fact I'd go as far as say that unlike most mice and in particular all keyboards (which make 0 sense in wireless), wireless headphones are pretty neat. They fix two big issues:
- Getting up in the middle of a call to grab a coffee or so.
- Accidentally yanking wires when swiveling in your chair. You instinctively let go with your hands, so you don't pull the KB or Mouse, but you don't always remember to actively take of the headset before you yanked it again.
The problem with latency is a bluetooth problem. Get one that doesn't use bluetooth or Infrared and you're golden. Idk about cheaper ones but my steelseries headphones are amazing with zero latency.
Yeah I've got a Logitech that uses a WiFi dongle and never noticed problems.
Wired best because i don't need to charge it and there is no possibility of signal jamming by operating a microwave.
If operating a microwave interferes with any of your 2.4GHz networks, you need a new microwave.
But then how will he ever join the X-Men?
Nope, my Microwave is older than i am and I'm not going to replace it until it breaks. It works perfectly, not even the light bulb burned through after almost 30 years of semi regular operation.
I don't have the right to replace something that worked longer than me without it being broken.
It works perfectly
Aside from letting it's waves get out of the "isolated" cage, you mean.
No Faraday cage is perfect. They are all just attenuators. Likely the amount of microwave leakage allowed used to be greater when it was just safety in mind. Has the FCC updated in 30yr for microwave leakage to protect communications?
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Sennheiser GSP 370. I literally cannot tell if the have latency, and being Sennheisers they sound really nice, too.
But this particular pair beats one the big issue I've always had with wireless headphones, having to charge them... these have 100 hours of battery life.
I don't charge them for weeks. And when they do finally complain about low battery, you still have more than enough juice to finish that night of gaming, and one more, before actually plugging them in. Unless you leave them unused for months, or don't plug them in at the end of the session when they do get low, they are ALWAYS ready to be used.
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Only issue I’ve ever had with wireless headphones is the ear piercing screech they do when the battery is running low
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I use wireless headphones nearly exclusively now but hate wireless mice and keyboards....
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The latency has been good for a while. The sound-quality has also caught up recently too with stuff like the Audeze Maxwell
My wireless headphones have a double battery meaning I never have to charge them. My wireless mouse and keyboard are always connected as they run out of battery to fast..
I just prefer cable for those two. For the keyboard cable makes no difference to me. Mice cables have come a long way and a good one is barely noticeable.
Headphones though, I'm never going back to the cord. Both Sony XM and Bose QC work great for me.
I use the Sennheiser Momentum 4 with no latency problems at all.
Although gaming is usually on speakers for me (Edifier) and that's all cables.
The problem with a personal endorsement is that you never know if it's actually good or if the person is bad at noticing it.
audio quality too, man the difference that I have experienced is night and day between my 80$ DUNU Titan S IEM and the 200$ Razer Opus 2021, the Opus is now mostly sitting collecting dust
Go watch Crinacle:)
my biggest issue with (my specific) wireless headphones is that the sound is shit when i am also using the mic. other than that, theyre fine
Ironically, if they were analog wireless, thered be no latency at all
Even cable has latency...
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As long as you use headphones and a bluetooth adapter that both support APTX LL (low-latency), it's instantaneous for me. Same as using it wired.
As a gamer and (almost) audiophile, any solution besides wired is just dancing around tradeoffs to get a worse result for more money. I'll stick with my cord.
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Is it any different vs headphones working via WiFi?
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The affordable stuff is usually cabled, so I use that.
You rich asses talking about latency, I'm just out here trying to keep gaming.
Wireless Mice and Wireless Keyboard are a no for me.
Not because of latency, but because of the annoyance of needing to charge them.
I technically have a wireless mouse, that I just keep wired perpetually.
Wireless sounds nice because it's clean, but it's terrible to use because of the nature of a battery being finite.
I really like my steelseries artics 7. Battery last so long, I sometimes forget when I last recharge them.
Also amazing reach, I can go anywhere in my house while keep on listening.
I use wired keyboard and mouse, because they're always in the same place and the cords don't bother me.
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Is this on Linux or Windows? Haven't noticed anything on Linux...
It's just inherent in bluetooth
What about 2.4 GHz based wireless? I know logitech has that tech but I haven't looked into audio latency since I used wired anyways, but I have been curious about it
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I wish they made open wireless. I know you lose quality in wireless but I love the sound stage.
Grado makes the GW-100x and there's also the wireless Koss porta pros
Oooh! Thank you. Those are the first I've seen. Going to look into reviews and see if the GW-100x will work for me.
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