Reserved bandwidth??

I mean that only matters for people like us.

99.99% of the Windows user base doesn't give the tiniest semblance of a shit about any of that. Hell I run Windows on my gaming pc still and have never had cause to do any of that.

20 years ago, a friend said "Windows does whatever you don't tell it not to do". It is as true now as it was then.

90% of configuring Windows is disabling shit.

I am currently dual booting and trying to get feature parity in my Linux install as a reletave newbie.

So far the largest hurdle I've been able to solve was getting my RAID array recognized. That sent me down a rabbit hole.

To get it working in Linux I needed to:

• switch from LMDE to Mint proper
• add a PPA repository
• install the RAID driver
• manually edit my grub config file to ignore AHCI
• run a command to apply the change
• reboot
• format the volume

To get it working in Windows I needed to:

• format the volume(Windows gave me a popup with a single button to do this on login)

I mean, you don't HAVE to do any of that stuff in Windows, it's just helps a bit.

I'm sure there are plenty of windows horror stories. But almost every Windows computer I've had in the last decade, both custom and OEM, has worked pretty well out of the box. And almost every Ubuntu computer I've had over the last decade has had problems that weren't trivial to fix.

I like Linux, but when people compare these problems like they're the same just are missing the point.

The reality is, for 98% plus of windows users, NONE of that matters. MS could give a shit about tech. nerds that want to de-bloat, reduce resources, install crazy niche thingyawidget....

Pretty much everyone in this community is not their target.

Car analogy! You are car guys running custom block modified street racers shitting on electric cars...

Reminder that Group Policy settings are disabled in home versions, and even some of the registry entries for updates are missing. To get a full package of windows with all the options you have to pay like $400 to $600 for their LTSC or maybe some of their Enterprise versions. Honestly, if anybody pirates Windows, then definitely pirate the LTSC.

"Windows Reserved Bandwidth" is just a QoS Packet Scheduler. The Linux Kernel has this too. Equally difficult to disable on any system, because its assumed you will want to be able to download a file and surf the web at the same time. You can turn it off I guess, if quality of service isn't your vibe.

Windows: Cannot print because error.

User: What error?

Windows: What error?

Windows and Linux are both easy to use... Provided that everything works out of the box.

Once you have to actually start solving problems, Windows really starts to fall down because you have to spend ages looking through settings and perhaps installing tools like bcd editors. Like seriously, the number of places you can manage your microphone settings are insane.

At this point, I think the only people that say Windows is easier are those that have never had to reinstall it or who have been using it since the XP days and haven't realised that it is all learned knowledge.

I certainly think Linux tooling could be improved (a graphical fstab editor would be nice), but I struggle to see how troubleshooting in Windows is any easier than Linux.

Learning Linux is learning how to use a computer.
Learning Windows is learning how to avoid big companies will when you want to use your computer.

Me: Can you please just not change the UI?
Microsoft: now you need to expand the right click menu to access your most used actions.
Me: what?
Microsoft: and we replaced all the cpl and msc files, so now you can't use the old settings interfaces.
Me: wait!
Microsoft: and ALL the new settings uses edge webviewer, so if you manage to remove edge you've fucked your install up
Me: sounds terrible, surely I can just reinstall edge
Microsoft: you can try but all links to edge on our website are just links that launches edge, because you can't remove it - so why provide an installer?
Me: do you expect me to die?
Microsoft: no Mr User, we expect you to cry! Muwhahahaha

Meme's not wrong and I daily Linux, but how we got here is all that crap on the bottom has a pretty low chance of leaving you bricked and getting back from bricking windows is usually marginally trivial. The same people get lost in Linux, don't read warnings, do stupid shit without thinking then spend forever trying to muddle through how to fix it. Mr. LTT did it himself.

Windows is easy to use if you don't care about privacy.

To be real with you, I find windows more complicated, the syntax..

As a linux user and developer and someone who works with linux servers all day for 20 years.

Yes linux is complicated.

I know instantly how to get the packages I need in Linux but I had to do some research to enable the webcam in Windows 10.

The idea that one OS is easier than the other is misattributed familiarity.

Unpopular opinion: The Windows Registry, a centralized, strongly typed key:value database for application settings, is actually superior to hundreds of individual dotfiles, each one written in its own janky customized DSL, with its own idea of where it should live in the file system, etc.

OP never watched the LTT Linux video

Edit: for people that also haven't watched it: Linus tried to use Pop-OS for gaming. When he tried to install Steam it uninstalled his desktop-environment leaving him with only a terminal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0506yDSgU7M

This is the exact reason I'm finally done with Windows. Customization and troubleshooting have become a nightmare since they started gi try and become more like Apple

I recently discovered, after a while of wondering why the audio quality in windows was worse than fedora that the automatic windows audio enhancements actually made the audio significantly worse 😅 meanwhile I still haven't figured out how to stop windows from randomly switching the audio source from my headphones to my nonexistent display monitor audio.

Linux: You can mostly stick to the GUI to install software, touch the terminal for obscure/command line applications and install GPU drivers and you have a functioning system

Windows: Forced to go into regedit and services.msc to fix high resource usage on a fresh install, debloat scripts to remove bloat on Windows and need to update system, scower the internet for drivers and all the software you need

I can see why I got fed up very fast trying to use Windows 11 in QEMU tbh...never trying that shitshow again...

Edit the only packages I had to install through Bash are: Neofetch, Htop, OpenSeeFace, Brave Browser, Wine, Nvidia drivers and ProtonVPN. Linux is very user friendly imo

A big hurdle in any technological change is the "power users". People that have learned a lot about the old tech and have to face that knowledge becoming obsolete. And then having to learn a bunch of new things.

The same goes for Windows power users as people who know a lot about fossil fuel powered cars.

The longer i spend on lemmy the more curious i become about running linux.

You right click the candy crush icon and press remove.

Whotf does the other two things?

It's not exactly a fair comparison, the tweaks in the bottom panel aren't necessary for most users to do, yet a new user to Linux will need to get over a learning curve to do fairly basic tasks.

My litmus test for when Linux will be "ready" is can you do everything you need to do without using the terminal. So far I've yet to see a distribution that has achieved this.

The closest thing I've seen is SteamOS.

windows sucks ass for this exact reason but linux is definitely complicated and filled with weird bugs as well lol. i guess those bugs are better than spyware though