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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But if I don't have a truck the size of a locomotive how will people know that I absolutely do not have a micropenis?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have always said "the louder the engine the smaller the dick". Guess this now applies to bigger trucks, too.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Excuse me ladies. Just thought I’d mention I ahem don’t have any vehicle all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, it's basically dragging behind you 😂

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

No vehicle can contain that man.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've pivoted. I don't think it's the size of the penis. Plenty of people with below average penises are great in bed and their partners are happy.

The people who feel the need to compensate know they are weak and cowardly and would never stand up for themselves against anyone stronger than them. And it emasculates them so they feel the need to compensate outwardly to other men. "I'm big and strong and tough!" In reality they'd back down from any other person, authority figure, or institution that they didn't feel like could beat or bully.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Regulate the market? What are you, some kind of communist?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Meanwhile, builds the largest highway network in the world, many even in cities; maintain shitload of free parking; also enforces minimum parking requirements, all at the expense of tax payer.

Many people are literally forced to pay to make everyone's life worse, when they don't own a car.

FREEDOM!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

When I found out about this after Climate Town's video on the subject, I was so furious!!!!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This shit is the direct consequence of regulation, not lack of it!

I'm talking about both CAFE standards that encourage manufacturers to build big vehicles to fit in the "light truck" loophole, and (infinitely more importantly!) the zoning regulations that led to all the car dependency in the fucking first place!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

This is actually how jaywalking became a crime

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tend to see those very tall vehicles as tall chairs for the big baby behind the wheel.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do we still call them compensators?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I call them "pavement princesses" since they're driven by office types most often who have no interest in offroading, which is the original intended use for lifted rigs. They're all rich sissies that want a giant truck for taking their fifth wheel to the lake because they're scared of driving a bus

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we need to give the children SUVs so they can fight back

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

IRL Rocket League let's go!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More and more of these are coming into Australia. They carry extremely small dick vibes. They are fucking annoying how much road space they take up. It's comical watching them drive around a car park. My friend bought a RAM and his personality changed with it in that he actually belittles our cars and kind of acts like we are weak?! He works as a corporate job and has absolutely no need for such a car apart from helping his inferiority complex. Now I can't help but dislike anyone who has one of these.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

They're popping up here in the UK too. Our winding pre-industrial roads really aren't big enough for these road tanks, they constantly get in the way. They're even too big for a lot of parking spaces, you see them spilling over all the time.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have no idea why F-150's keep getting bigger. Do people really like that shit? Old trucks are so much better, from design to MPG.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It has to do with new standards for fuel effiency being based on the size of the vehicle.

In the Obama era, Edmunds explained, fuel economy regulations “changed from just a straight average across the board to what’s called a platform-based fuel economy standard. So your fuel economy target for a given vehicle is based on its wheelbase and its tread width, which is the width between the tires left to right. So if you multiply that you find the area of that rectangle and there’s a table that shows what your fuel-economy target is. The bigger the vehicle, the smaller the target.”

In other words, the regulations put in place to get better mileage out of vehicles also led to an increase in truck size. “There was kind of an incentive to maybe stretch the wheelbase a couple of inches and set the tires maybe an inch [farther] apart, because you get a bigger platform and slightly smaller target,” said Edmunds. “Now, the bigger vehicle would be heavier and might use more fuel, so it’s not as easy as just doing that. But certainly there was a feeling that if they did need to make it bigger to accommodate more passengers, the fuel economy target wouldn’t be onerous. They could do it.”

Basically, it was easier to make bigger trucks than it was to build more efficient engines, so we have this gargantuan trucks pushed on us and then they go "ITS WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT" because there are literally no other options besides these giant trucks if you want something with a bed.

Like, even the "small trucks" like the modern Rangers and Colorados are about the same size as the 90s F150s and Silverados. Its nuts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And even still, if you're not looking for 4 doors you're doubly SOL. You can have the fleet vehicle, poverty-spec or you can have crew cabs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think there's a huge percentage of truck drivers who never use their truck for truck stuff. It's simply a status symbol to them which is pathetic. And bigger equals better in their feeble minds.

I have a 13 yr old Tacoma and it's tiny compared to even the modern "small" trucks. When this thing finally dies, I have no idea what I'll get. I love the size of it though. Maybe a Ford Maverick, but those are on backorder for years I heard from several friends who tried to get one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I use my truck for hauling stuff and camping.

For hauling big is objectively better. Without a doubt.

And for camping it’s nice that I can sleep in the 6.5 foot bed of my truck, and also fit my camping supplies in the back seat of my full sized cab. I only put maybe 300 miles a month on it. So it’s not like I’m driving it as my primary. But yes, it’s huge.

My other car is a tiny Honda. Which is great for everything else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Even the new Tacoma is still smaller than those F-150 monstrosities. The only other small pickup other than the Maverick is the Santa Cruz, but it isn't really a utility truck if you actually need to haul a ton of stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

https://youtu.be/azI3nqrHEXM

Here's an excellent video explaining why.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ugh. my sister at one point had one of those H3's and gushed about how safe it made her feel for her and her children. Yeah safer for you!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

At least it wasn't the H2! One of the worst vehicles I had to drive when it comes to visibility (second only to the F650) and I probably have driven a thousand different models in the 10 years I was a valet!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are some minibuses that my local transit provider uses for suburban routes, the kind that's a bus cabin bolted to a modified Ford truck body or van. Something I noticed riding those buses is that the operator sits lower and has a smaller engine compartment up front obstructing their view than a lot of five-seater SUVs. Hell, some SUVs are nearly as wide and long as a minibus, just not as tall.

Also, those busses are operated by trained CDL drivers who are subject to regular examination and tracking of their performance by both the CDL issuer and the transit authority. Can you say the same for the average family SUV?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Don't give any Republicans any ideas. They might consider this seriously.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

One thing that always strikes me is once notice how many giant ass vehicles are on the road...you can't unnotice it lol.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Trucks are commercial vehicles. You need them for towing, hauling and other construction related activities. License, permit and tax them as such. If you have a huge boat or RV you need to tow, get and pay for a permit. Have the taxes be based on mileage so the more they're used, the more expensive it is. We invented weigh stations to make trucks compensate for the additional strain they put on roads. Same for these trucks. That'll help prevent them from being daily drivers.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Bring back the station wagon 😭 I want a hybrid wagon, but the Volvo is is prices so no one can afford it lol... I really don't want to get the Chrysler van...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Should be required by law that all new cars have Pedestrian crash avoidance mitigation (PCAM) systems. In the same way that seatbelts and rear cameras are required. Would be surprised if it’s nit required by 2030.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I recently moved to a state where there are so many giant vehicles, and I drive a compact car. The front of the hood of an f-150 is as tall as my entire car. I feel like I'm the closest to the ground out of all the cars on the highway. You see all these big trucks and SUVs having a hard time maneuvering in parking lots. Why do all these people need such giant vehicles? Gas is expensive enough in my little tiny car, is the worse mileage even worth it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They’ll cover them in corporate “crash detection” cameras for which you need to pay a monthly subscription and they take all the data and sell it to cops anyway. It’s a win-win-win for capitalism!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I would appreciate an illustration with kids standing , not sitting

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Directly regulating the size isn't the only possibility though, huge cars are really rare in the EU even though there isn't anything prohibiting you from buying them. You just won't fit anywhere with one if you do :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Thing is, the size is already regulated. The bigger the car is, more emmisions are allowed.

This cars are getting bigger because of regulation.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I seem to recall seeing a Hummer H2 recently and being astounded that it looked not only "normal", but even a bit on the small side.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Colin Furze had the solution for cyclists three years ago: https://youtu.be/vZFDNR9V5Nc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This comic was made by a pathetic, jealous shortwalker

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